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kirbysmith4life said: ↑

At the end of the day, we are all human beings.

If you think it stings to be a fan. Imagine being Les Miles. He knows that he is responsible. Everyone goes through ups and downs, and life lessons. I believe that this type of embarrassment will make him a better coach. Hey. Saban isn't flawless. If he was, he'd have 12 titles, instead of 3. Miles got out coached, and underprepared his team.

If you can't sleep, imagine how he feels. Nothing is better than learning the hard way. And the best thing is, we see Bama every year. Miles and staff know, if they don't adjust, and open it up, then we are doomed to fail. We may have gotten a little cocky with our back to back victories. If overconfidence was the case, then this was a butt kicking well deserved.

I am in the same boat with the original poster. I really felt as if I was in the twilight zone as I was watching the game. I have nothing more to say on that because visually imagining what I witnessed on the field brings about an instant headache.

This why I am all about given congrats to the Tide, and moving forward. You'd have to be blind and out of your mind to not realize that Les is playing with a stacked deck.
In my honest opinion, the next 2 BCS titles or ours (and if not for him believing in a terrible QB, he would have had this one).

With the news that this thing could go to a playoff as soon as 2014, we could win one every year, and face Saban and the Tide religiously. I love it! And wouldn't have it any other way.

P.S.

I (like many), have the great fortune of being an LSU grad, who was born and raised in New Orleans. Not only do I bleed purple and gold, but I'm also black and gold to the bone.

If you are a die hard Saints fan, you've seen Sean Payton mature as a coach and play caller. In Sean Payton's previous history, the Saints would blow many games, because the coach was too pass happy of a play caller. And after the games he would admit that we needed more balance. In 09, we had balance, and won the Super Bowl. This year, we have balance, and or setting every offensive record known to man.

Point being, Les hasn't seemed to have any clock management problems this year (though our games weren't close enough to call for a time crisis) and he has done better overall. He's began to infuse the younger, more talented players, which he didn't use to do early in his LSU career. So, hopefully, this but kicking, was the last thing he needed to push him over the edge to where he needs to be as a coach.

But if this one loss wants some to get the man fired, then, it speaks volume for there lack of understanding of what it takes to win one football games, let alone 13. I'm certain than more than 100 FBS coaches would take a 13-1 SEC championship season, with an appearance in the national championship game every year, every month, every day, 10 times out of 10.

And we all know, that deep down in our hearts, that there was know way in hell, that the football gods would let it be factual, that "the greatest team" in college football history, be quarterbacked by Jordan Jefferson. Come on, now, we have to be honest, now that it is all said and done, would that reality have ever made since. It make me laugh every time I consider it. It just wasn't meant to be. We know this now because it isn't.

Life is to short and sweet to complain about the trivial, when you can smile and laugh about all that is.

So, I mean really. Imagine a world where kids grew up being told that the greatest college football team ever, was led by (insert your favorite image of) Starting QB, Jordan Jefferson. That is a world that just could not be.

In my opinion.
Things are as they are supposed to be.

Saban got his 3rd. He is a great coach, and we all know it.

LSU was put on the map big time: Awards and national coverage out of the wazoo.

Our Team experienced the highest of highs. 13-0

And the lowest of the lows on January 9th. It's kinda like being blown out in the Super Bowl. How do you hate a team, or discredit a coach that made it to the super bowl. That's why the original post is so dead on. It wasn't the loss. It was the performance.

With still another great recruiting class. The sky isn't falling, it's getting bluer.
Did Miles' team get better? Yes. From 11-2, to 13-1.
Did Miles win his conference? Yes. Undisputed SEC champions.

Imagine a coach as intense as Les Miles is, looking in the mirror and knowing, that his only thing left to do as a coach is run the table. Feeling that if he doesn't run the table, he has let his team down.
What makes this a dangerous motivating factor for the rest of the football world is this.
Les Miles has all the tools necessary to do exactly that. Run the table, run back down the table, and run it again!

We all know, come Spring Game, Jan 9th will be a distant memory.
And come September 1, those Tigers are going to be strapped up and angry.
With a gunslinger at QB and an eye on Nov. 3rd.
If you thought this season was a great one, the party is just getting started.

Geaux Tigers!!!
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this is a great post.....very insightful

Tiger in NC, Jan 11, 2012

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kirbysmith4life said: ↑

At the end of the day, we are all human beings.

If you think it stings to be a fan. Imagine being Les Miles. He knows that he is responsible. Everyone goes through ups and downs, and life lessons. I believe that this type of embarrassment will make him a better coach. Hey. Saban isn't flawless. If he was, he'd have 12 titles, instead of 3. Miles got out coached, and underprepared his team.

If you can't sleep, imagine how he feels. Nothing is better than learning the hard way. And the best thing is, we see Bama every year. Miles and staff know, if they don't adjust, and open it up, then we are doomed to fail. We may have gotten a little cocky with our back to back victories. If overconfidence was the case, then this was a butt kicking well deserved.

I am in the same boat with the original poster. I really felt as if I was in the twilight zone as I was watching the game. I have nothing more to say on that because visually imagining what I witnessed on the field brings about an instant headache.

This why I am all about given congrats to the Tide, and moving forward. You'd have to be blind and out of your mind to not realize that Les is playing with a stacked deck.
In my honest opinion, the next 2 BCS titles or ours (and if not for him believing in a terrible QB, he would have had this one).

With the news that this thing could go to a playoff as soon as 2014, we could win one every year, and face Saban and the Tide religiously. I love it! And wouldn't have it any other way.

P.S.

I (like many), have the great fortune of being an LSU grad, who was born and raised in New Orleans. Not only do I bleed purple and gold, but I'm also black and gold to the bone.

If you are a die hard Saints fan, you've seen Sean Payton mature as a coach and play caller. In Sean Payton's previous history, the Saints would blow many games, because the coach was too pass happy of a play caller. And after the games he would admit that we needed more balance. In 09, we had balance, and won the Super Bowl. This year, we have balance, and or setting every offensive record known to man.

Point being, Les hasn't seemed to have any clock management problems this year (though our games weren't close enough to call for a time crisis) and he has done better overall. He's began to infuse the younger, more talented players, which he didn't use to do early in his LSU career. So, hopefully, this but kicking, was the last thing he needed to push him over the edge to where he needs to be as a coach.

But if this one loss wants some to get the man fired, then, it speaks volume for there lack of understanding of what it takes to win one football games, let alone 13. I'm certain than more than 100 FBS coaches would take a 13-1 SEC championship season, with an appearance in the national championship game every year, every month, every day, 10 times out of 10.

And we all know, that deep down in our hearts, that there was know way in hell, that the football gods would let it be factual, that "the greatest team" in college football history, be quarterbacked by Jordan Jefferson. Come on, now, we have to be honest, now that it is all said and done, would that reality have ever made since. It make me laugh every time I consider it. It just wasn't meant to be. We know this now because it isn't.

Life is to short and sweet to complain about the trivial, when you can smile and laugh about all that is.

So, I mean really. Imagine a world where kids grew up being told that the greatest college football team ever, was led by (insert your favorite image of) Starting QB, Jordan Jefferson. That is a world that just could not be.

In my opinion.
Things are as they are supposed to be.

Saban got his 3rd. He is a great coach, and we all know it.

LSU was put on the map big time: Awards and national coverage out of the wazoo.

Our Team experienced the highest of highs. 13-0

And the lowest of the lows on January 9th. It's kinda like being blown out in the Super Bowl. How do you hate a team, or discredit a coach that made it to the super bowl. That's why the original post is so dead on. It wasn't the loss. It was the performance.

With still another great recruiting class. The sky isn't falling, it's getting bluer.
Did Miles' team get better? Yes. From 11-2, to 13-1.
Did Miles win his conference? Yes. Undisputed SEC champions.

Imagine a coach as intense as Les Miles is, looking in the mirror and knowing, that his only thing left to do as a coach is run the table. Feeling that if he doesn't run the table, he has let his team down.
What makes this a dangerous motivating factor for the rest of the football world is this.
Les Miles has all the tools necessary to do exactly that. Run the table, run back down the table, and run it again!

We all know, come Spring Game, Jan 9th will be a distant memory.
And come September 1, those Tigers are going to be strapped up and angry.
With a gunslinger at QB and an eye on Nov. 3rd.
If you thought this season was a great one, the party is just getting started.

Geaux Tigers!!!
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Well done, Kirby, your best post.....ever. But Jeez, it was long!:lol:

mctiger, Jan 11, 2012

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Kirby Smith, this was a great post. This week at all of the Plano schools is College Week. Yesterday, the theme was college sweatshirt. I still wore my LSU, and some of the kiddos gave me the business about it.

My stock answer was, "I was a Tiger yesterday, I am a Tiger today, and I will be a Tiger tomorrow."

The future is very bright, and we will get ours in the very near future. This team was still relatively young and will return very, very experienced with more upperclassmen the next two seasons.

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mctiger said: ↑

Well done, Kirby, your best post.....ever. But Jeez, it was long!:lol:
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Thanks you guys..
I'm just glad to know that I am not the only who see's past Jan. 9th.
The progress this team made from 10' to 11' was unreal.

P.S.
I didn't mean to make that post so long , but I had reached the point of being fed up with the negative, "Fire Les, we suck, shoulda, coulda, woulda fans."

Reality is reality. We got beaten. Fair and Square. Our weakness was the QB, and Saban exposed it. Plain and simple.

The other reality is this. We have one of the top teams, and best coaches (whether you like him or not) in the country. This isn't opinion, the guys record speaks for himself.

Some want to discredit him, and say its all about the coordinator. When the record shows, Whoever the coordinator, offensive and defensive, the guy wins games, and competes for championships. Now don't get me wrong, I hope the Chavis coaches the LSU defense until he needs a cane to walk and eats with dentures. But, don't overlook the role the head coach plays in making the right hires, and keeping those guys on staff.

I read a book once that said something that is so true to life.
"Real smart people, hire smarter people to work for them."

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kirbysmith4life, Jan 11, 2012

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Great great post!

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amen breaux - well said!

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I watched the game last night in utter amazement. This team that had always risen to the occassion, who never got consumed my the moment, who had battled through seemingly everything were, for once, dumb founded by the scene and the scale of the scene.

After cooling off this morning I have tried to think this through because the team we all saw last night is not the same team that we've seen all season long. From the outset it was apparent that Alabama had come to play ball and that we were lack luster. This is taking nothing from Bama's performance because they won the day but it almost seemed as if the entire team and coaching staff had taken a punch to the gut before the game started and could never recover.

As bad as it hurts, I can handle losing if our team performs to their best. Not only was last night not our best, it was the worst performance in the past two or three years and maybe further back than that. All night I kept waiting for someone or something to spark our team and it never happened.

I cannot help but believe that the youth of this team played a part in last night's performance. Since before the SEC championship all they have heard is that they should be mentioned with the greatest teams in college football history and that is a lot for a 18-20 year old kid to absorb. Our coaching staff also did a poor job of mentally preparing our kids for what they were going to face: it was always going to be harder than it was the first time. To me this was evident by the some of the statements players made regarding Bama not deserving to be in the BCSNCG.

Lastly, there is no excuse for our QB play last night. I could go into a lot greater detail, perhaps play-by-agonizing-play but I am afraid it would only serve to raise my blood pressure as it did last night. I will leave it at this: glad the whole saga is over.

On to an improving Tigers basketball squad and the spring game.

GEAUX TIGERS!!![/QUO
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Kirby Smith, this was a great post. This week at all of the Plano schools is College Week. Yesterday, the theme was college sweatshirt. I still wore my LSU, and some of the kiddos gave me the business about it.

My stock answer was, "I was a Tiger yesterday, I am a Tiger today, and I will be a Tiger tomorrow."

The future is very bright, and we will get ours in the very near future. This team was still relatively young and will return very, very experienced with more upperclassmen the next two seasons.
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Good response. Mine would be,"To get stomped in the championship game, first you have to get to the championship game. How's your team do?"

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BOOM!

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The saddest thing was that I felt nothing as they lost. The only other time I felt like that towards sports was last year when the Lakers were swept by the Mavs. They played so horribly and flat, that by the third quarter, I lost all emotional connection to the game. This is what happened last night. I was so hyped up for this game and for it to go down like that, was hard. I felt sadness for the defensive players, defensive coaches, the seniors, and all the LSU fans. I did not feel any sadness over the loss. It was like the horrible play sucked all the emotions out of me. I still can't believe that they played like that. Geaux Tigers!
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I AGREE W/ THE LACK OF EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT TO THE GAME. i was disbelieving & stunned that further attempts/changes were not made to improve the performance. i was not angry, but sad that a season could come to such an apathetic conclusion as this. today i am angry that the coaching staff performed so poorly and had their team so ill-prepared.
in war games, you don't keep taking the same trails & roads when you know there are land mines and ambushes set up.....

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kirbysmith4life said: ↑

At the end of the day, we are all human beings.

If you think it stings to be a fan. Imagine being Les Miles. He knows that he is responsible. Everyone goes through ups and downs, and life lessons. I believe that this type of embarrassment will make him a better coach. Hey. Saban isn't flawless. If he was, he'd have 12 titles, instead of 3. Miles got out coached, and underprepared his team.

If you can't sleep, imagine how he feels. Nothing is better than learning the hard way. And the best thing is, we see Bama every year. Miles and staff know, if they don't adjust, and open it up, then we are doomed to fail. We may have gotten a little cocky with our back to back victories. If overconfidence was the case, then this was a butt kicking well deserved.

I am in the same boat with the original poster. I really felt as if I was in the twilight zone as I was watching the game. I have nothing more to say on that because visually imagining what I witnessed on the field brings about an instant headache.

This why I am all about given congrats to the Tide, and moving forward. You'd have to be blind and out of your mind to not realize that Les is playing with a stacked deck.
In my honest opinion, the next 2 BCS titles or ours (and if not for him believing in a terrible QB, he would have had this one).

With the news that this thing could go to a playoff as soon as 2014, we could win one every year, and face Saban and the Tide religiously. I love it! And wouldn't have it any other way.

P.S.

I (like many), have the great fortune of being an LSU grad, who was born and raised in New Orleans. Not only do I bleed purple and gold, but I'm also black and gold to the bone.

If you are a die hard Saints fan, you've seen Sean Payton mature as a coach and play caller. In Sean Payton's previous history, the Saints would blow many games, because the coach was too pass happy of a play caller. And after the games he would admit that we needed more balance. In 09, we had balance, and won the Super Bowl. This year, we have balance, and or setting every offensive record known to man.

Point being, Les hasn't seemed to have any clock management problems this year (though our games weren't close enough to call for a time crisis) and he has done better overall. He's began to infuse the younger, more talented players, which he didn't use to do early in his LSU career. So, hopefully, this but kicking, was the last thing he needed to push him over the edge to where he needs to be as a coach.

But if this one loss wants some to get the man fired, then, it speaks volume for there lack of understanding of what it takes to win one football games, let alone 13. I'm certain than more than 100 FBS coaches would take a 13-1 SEC championship season, with an appearance in the national championship game every year, every month, every day, 10 times out of 10.

And we all know, that deep down in our hearts, that there was know way in hell, that the football gods would let it be factual, that "the greatest team" in college football history, be quarterbacked by Jordan Jefferson. Come on, now, we have to be honest, now that it is all said and done, would that reality have ever made since. It make me laugh every time I consider it. It just wasn't meant to be. We know this now because it isn't.

Life is to short and sweet to complain about the trivial, when you can smile and laugh about all that is.

So, I mean really. Imagine a world where kids grew up being told that the greatest college football team ever, was led by (insert your favorite image of) Starting QB, Jordan Jefferson. That is a world that just could not be.

In my opinion.
Things are as they are supposed to be.

Saban got his 3rd. He is a great coach, and we all know it.

LSU was put on the map big time: Awards and national coverage out of the wazoo.

Our Team experienced the highest of highs. 13-0

And the lowest of the lows on January 9th. It's kinda like being blown out in the Super Bowl. How do you hate a team, or discredit a coach that made it to the super bowl. That's why the original post is so dead on. It wasn't the loss. It was the performance.

With still another great recruiting class. The sky isn't falling, it's getting bluer.
Did Miles' team get better? Yes. From 11-2, to 13-1.
Did Miles win his conference? Yes. Undisputed SEC champions.

Imagine a coach as intense as Les Miles is, looking in the mirror and knowing, that his only thing left to do as a coach is run the table. Feeling that if he doesn't run the table, he has let his team down.
What makes this a dangerous motivating factor for the rest of the football world is this.
Les Miles has all the tools necessary to do exactly that. Run the table, run back down the table, and run it again!

We all know, come Spring Game, Jan 9th will be a distant memory.
And come September 1, those Tigers are going to be strapped up and angry.
With a gunslinger at QB and an eye on Nov. 3rd.
If you thought this season was a great one, the party is just getting started.

Geaux Tigers!!!
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wow! what a great perspective! very positive and well-written. amazing attitude about the season. it is football - not life. i have been an lsu fan since birth - born in la. & my dad & aunt both went to lsu! football season is a wonderful way to pass the dreariness of winter & is great entertainment - looking forward to next fall! geaux tigers!

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