Isla Vista killing....the NRA's fault?

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  1. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying. Kill the little fuckers before they can become Republicans.

    It's not my decision. I don't care what they do. I have enough things in life to worry about without adding something that doesn't affect me. Gay Marriage, Abortion, Religious Doctrine, Drugs, etc. do what you want to yourself. I don't give a shit. I remember when all Conservatives thought this way...
     
  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    You know if race hating republicans were smart they would be all for abortions.
     
  3. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Unbelievable! Are you good at public speaking? Can you fake a German accent? Can you grow a very small mustache? Sardonic humor aside, the vast majority of aborted fetuses would have grown up to vote for Democrats.
     
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  4. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    Perhaps, but that still doesn't make what other people do with their bodies any of my business.
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I think this is a straw man. Abortion is a pretty expensive, medically invasive, and stupid method of birth control. I don't think this happens much, except in the imaginations of the anti-abortion lobby. The bottom line for me is that a woman be in control of her own medical decisions. Second is that it makes no logical sense to force women to have unwanted children. Third is that it will only force women back into back-alley abortion stat existed before Roe v. Wade. Almost nobody wants to see that again. Those who do are insane.

    It is always a private family matter. What business is it for third parties? Especially the government, which was my original question for you. You distrust the government. Why in the world should they be able to tell you what you medical decisions should be?

    I do not disagree with this.

    A half million illegal back-alley abortions with a high mother mortality rate is no better.

    So what? It is irrelevant to the issue of AGW.

    Mostly your fear and loathing of the federal government. It seems like a Montana militia, Unabomber, Timothy McVeigh, extreme right wing thing to me. I realize that you aren't such an extremist, but the far right is where this distrust and hate of government is coming from.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I'm saying that a fertile cell in a woman's body does not have more rights than the living, breathing human herself.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Prove it.
     
  8. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Easy. The demographics of young unwed pregnant girls
     
  9. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    I agree but at some point the fertile cell developes into much more. I don't know exactly at what point a fetus can be considered a human being capable of feelings and thought
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    That is your allegation. Where is your evidence? I think you made it up.
     

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