Is there a specific reason that we can't get an elite QB

It seems to be a hybrid of spread/pro style but it seems to me that crowton and miles just cant agree on what they want to run... i know what the spread offense looks like and how its run but thats not what were doing..it seems we try to tun a spread offense but the scheme is pro. in other words we try to stretch the defense with the option (which we dont do very well) and we also try to pound between the tackle and guard and try to get vertical with our passing. I was always taught that with all things that you are trying to accomplish with a scheme it has to be clear because too many variations cause confusion. I was just speaking with the evangel coaches yesterday and we were talking about how they can run a play in the middle of the game that have never even drawn up. if you have a definate scheme there is no confusion..My point is there seems to be no clean cut point as to what were going to run and how were going to run it...

 

I agree. And I get frustrated (right along with Jim Hawthorne...:lol when it just looks like nobody knows what the hell play is being called until the very last minute. I don't know if it matters on the field or not, but LSU for a few years now has looked like it has been on the ragged edge of getting the plays on the field.

I personally think our offense is too complicated. It seemed to work with Flynn, who was a 5th year guy. But not everyone on the team has been around college football that long.

 

I don't even care about an elite QB.. look at the smaller schools. Hall, Pike, LeFevour, Keenum.. they would all do fantastic here.

 

BMY..i love you finally someone that can see the truth..i love it:rofl:

 

those guys were not dropped into the toughest conference in CFB either. Jefferson would be a star playing against that level of competition...

 

Nooooo.

 

Jefferson wasn't a star against the Techs and Troys of the world. All of those guys are very accurate passers who spread the ball around. Combine that with a strong running game.. and what more do you need?

 

I can't help but think this logic is flawed. If this statement were true, we would have a lot more SEC quarterbacks drafted into the NFL before any of those guys from lesser conferences.

As for why LSU does not seem to produce elite quarterbacks, I think it is a combination of what everyone else has said, but I think lack of QB development is the biggest factor. I also look across the SEC and see that most teams don't recruit and develop 'elite' QBs either.

Mallet was originally recruited to Michigan, and has yet to become 'elite' IMO, but I think he is the closest to an 'elite' QB the SEC has. Tebow was not an 'elite' QB in terms of his passing game. Snead didn't pan out the way he was supposed to. McElroy is more of a game manager than an 'elite' passer. Brantley hasn't proven anything yet. Tennessee, Georgia, Auburn, and Vandy come to mind when you think of QB troubles.

My point is, LSU is not alone when it comes to not having an 'elite' QB. I also think QB's that come from conferences like the Big XII get more press because they are the feature of their offenses in a pass heavy conference. I also think that QB's coming out of high school are almost always very raw, and you need to nurture them more than most positions on the field. I think we are lacking in that department.

Another point to consider is that LSU does not need an 'elite' QB to run its offense effectively. It certainly would help, but we don't gameplan our offense around the passing game exclusively.

 

If Miles has made a point to showcase the upcoming emphasis on a running attack, why would somebody who wants to chunk the ball rush to our campus? The SEC has always been dominated by it's running game, despite showing an ability to pass.

Combined with the QB woes under Crowton, it should not be a mystery.

 

I don't fully disagree with this, but think it to be very overstated. He hasn't had a QB go through a second year, yet he doesn't develop QBs? He developed Tim Rattay pretty well. Dunno about his other gigs though. Waiting to see for myself. Even if JJ is better this year though, Gonzales will have praise heaped upon him...and it will be in spite of Crowton. And the funny thing is, I couldn't argue, because I just don't know.

I do know the offense sucked last year, and for many more and important reasons than JJ's play. I KNOW that's on Crowton.