Is Obama preparing a trillion-dollar, mass refinancing of mortgages?

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  1. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    And I proved why your view is paradoxical and has circular logic.

    I actually didn't mean that you do that in every thread so you could show me many where you take a stance, but I could show you a few where you resort to challenging a legitimate point and painting the poster as an idiot as you're trying to do here. It's a weak little game you play when you can't answer a simple questions.
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    You only proved that you like to argue with yourself and dispute whatever I say.

    I'm not painting you as an idiot, your brainpower is plenty adequate. I'm painting you as a polemicist.

    For the last time. I answered your questions, you just don't accept them. I'm done with you.
     
  3. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    presumably your proposal involves public money? then you should wonder about these sort of things.

    i rent an apartment. i wont buy a house, because the houses where i want to live cost millions. and that is ok, its my life, my decisions, if i never own a home, so be it. why should the government ever favor anyone owning a home? why help anyone refinance anything? if you cant afford to refinance, so what, go **** yourself, dont buy something if you cant afford market fluctuations.
     
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    then that statement is meaningless. who is helping refinance these mortgages? some person who we dont care about? of course that is "fine by" you! that is like saying "i support the plan that has nothing to do with me or anyone". its like saying "if you want to eat cheetos and listen to rush tonight, that is fine by me" of course it is, that goes without saying. you never speak in specific terms.

    what does that mean, a "plan to refinance" for those in trouble? who runs this? the government? nobody? a magical dragon?
     
  5. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    Your argument is nonsensical. I asked for you to give me an example of how you could help homeowners without bailing them out. You don't even have to support the idea. I'm not asking you for a plan. Just an example of how your statement could in any way be based in reality and you can't do it so you resort to attacks and some mystical high ground where people don't have to have thoughts based in reality in a debate.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I'll repeat what I said in post 38, maybe you have better retention than the Endless Strip.

    This is all that I have stated. I have not proposed any grand plans, only suggested the kind of ideas I might support or not support. All the rest is lame grandstanding by someone who refuses to recognize what I'm trying to say and insists that I provide examples of something he desperately wants to argue against.
     
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    Damn Martin, you're dense. I mean isn't it clear? Red supports helping people financially without burdening others financially. It's a simple concept that he can't give one example of.

    I agree with this along with Unicorn voting rights, pension plans for flying pigs, and the aforementioned rainbow powered cars.
     
  8. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    are the ideas public or private?

    if they are public then you are proposing a boondoggle. if they are private then how do you "support" them? investing in banks that offer refinancing? what does that mean "support"? when you use this word it makes a huge difference if the plan you support is govedrnment run or not. like i support all sorts of crazy ideas, but i wildly oppose those same ideas if they government runs them.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The ideas are conceptual. My property is all paid for and I don't study mortgage options like CS does.

    I have proposed nothing. Can't you understand that? :huh: I have said that I cannot support plans that involve a bailout but perhaps other plans that don't, like refinancing. This is not proposing anything.

    I can support any idea that seems pragmatic to me. CS, who is in the mortgage business, stated that underwater borrowers could be allowed to use existing lower rates. That doesn't sound like a boondoggle to me.
     
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    refinancing by who? a magical dragon?
     

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