Is les miles really a good coach?

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  1. LEGACY TIGER

    LEGACY TIGER Defy Yourself

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    You are right, we don't know who is to blame, but I would lay money on it that it isn't the guy who has led his team to 2 SECCG's (1 W), a BCSNCG in 5 yrs, and has an avg of 10+ wins/season. The one constent in all of those yrs is Miles, the assts have changed, he is the winning element.
     
  2. sugarlsu

    sugarlsu Founding Member

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    THANK YOU FOR THIS POST!

    Per cfbdatawarehouse.com LSU is the number 9 football program in the nation historically, since day 1. They have a relatively non-biased way they calculate it.
     
  3. sugarlsu

    sugarlsu Founding Member

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    Yes he is a good coach, if you base a good coach on things like winning percentage, championships, recruiting, bowl wins, and running a clean program.

    The problem is that we are in the SEC. The competion is tough. All you can do is try to hang out in the top ten in the country year in and year out, and every now and then gold will strike and you will get a NC. Remember Spurrier's great SEC run? He only won one NC.
     
  4. LEGACY TIGER

    LEGACY TIGER Defy Yourself

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    Great point, and Spurrier was considered king of the Sec in his time, or at least UF.
     
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    bmy- Founding Member

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    Where do they stand with the recent vacated wins?
     
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    cristof11 Founding Member

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    That's because he ran the score up against his opponents.
     
  7. Chase4LSU

    Chase4LSU Waiting on Mettenberger

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    It depends on your ideals for a good coach. To me, Miles is a very good coach that I hope we can keep here for a long time. Yes, you will find Miles haters and Saban lovers on this forum. He has his faults, but so did Saban, and so does every coach.

    Points that are hard to argue with:
    -Over 80% wins in five years
    -Four bowl victories
    -Stayed at LSU when he could have went to coach at his Alma Mater
    -One :crystal:


    He's viewed as proud and stubborn by his detractors. He is an expert at coach-speak, which aggravate some people, when he talks to the media. Some people see him as afraid to change things up in the middle of a game, preferring instead to use the same tactic, even if it isn't working.

    While he has exhibited these traits on occasion, I'm still glad he's our coach, and hope that he will continue to be:miles:
     
  8. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    It's a media driven world. Miles gets a bad rap (not a good coach, moron, etc) because he's not smooth in front of the camera. He doesn't obsess (to my knowledge or observation) about his image. His choice of words and phrasing is unpolished. Unlike other, more media savvy coaches, if you print his off-the-cuff statements word for word, they're awkward to read.

    Miles is one of those "contact" leaders. Almost a throwback. His charisma is personal.

    Bear Bryant, for instance, would get crucified by our current media, video obsessed culture. Maybe Lombardi would, too. I haven't seen enough of him on camera to know for sure.
     
  9. StaceyO

    StaceyO Football Turns Me On

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    This is what I like the most about Miles. He does seem like one of the old-time coaches. He's not a media animal; he's not polished. And for goodness sakes, that's the way I think a football coach should be.

    He harkens back to Bo or Charlie Mac. Good, tough guys, who you could tell had a heart of gold.
     
  10. ScottforJC

    ScottforJC It's never over until God says its over-Sid Ortis

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    After reading this article by Carl Dubois, I'm starting to see the method to the Mad Hatter: TigerRag - DUBOIS: My View

    First of all, I want to say that I like CLM and what he stands for. His winning record at LSU cannot be disputed and he does it with dignity, class and compassion for players (kids) and coaches alike. Having a 19 year old in college really does help you appreciate how Miles takes care of his players.

    After reading Carl's article, it really became clear to me that CLM is about the future. Yes, it's important to win this week's game, but it's equally important to look down the road at what's coming and prepare for it.

    Last year, he could have fired Malveto mid-season but he chose not to bow to public pressure. The end result was a couple of losses, but he gained a reputation of being a man who has high integrity and let's people fail gracefully. The long-term result is coaches who would want to work with him.

    He could have booted Perilloux sooner than he did, but the kid didn't commit armed robbery and Miles promised his mother he would take care of him. The long-term result is parents who guide their kids to the LSU program because they see beyond 4 years of college football.

    He could have ditched the passing last week and run the ball all day. The long-term result that he wanted (but did not get this time) was that Lee would break out of his slump and be ready for Ole Miss and Arky if needed.

    We live in a microwave world -- we want what we want and we want it NOW! Since Miles doesn't seem to think that way, then we get threads like this where we see two losses as a much bigger thing than eight wins and are ready to can one of the most successful coaches in LSU history.

    :geaux:
     

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