Here is where you are really missing the boat. If Herbie believes his source was really honest with him, no proof has surfaced to substantiate a shred of evidence to support his source's story or time line. Not a single shred. Point of fact, every single person involved from both sides has said unequivocally, that those claims were unfounded and false. It can mean only one thing. Herbie's source was flat out wrong. It does not really matter at this point how "credible" he was, is, or will be in the future. It also does not really matter what the motivations of an unnamed person were either. In this case, he was off the mark. Herbie can continue to trust that his source had it right, and continue to look like an idiot in the national media. It is his right, and his job. However, you may want to reconsider your own actions in perpetuating this falsehood on a LSU board. By continuing to espouse your belief that the story was true, you in fact call our coach a liar. People got away with that while Michigan did not have a coach, patiently waiting for the "truth" to come out. That probably won't continue. If you are like Herbie in this instance and unable to let it go and admit you don't know what you are talking about, then you might want to take note that you are on a LSU forum, and just shut up about it.
Ok being a chick I couldn't have said it as well but since he did then I say.... go get 'em dude! I got your back and okie and I can get pretty darn evil if need be!!!
Dude, this damn thing won'l let me give you any more rep points - I really tried. Go get um. Oh, and by the way, for any lurking folks from Ohio - now that UM has a coach, you can look forward to at least 2 L's in 2008 - one in January and another in November ---- We are LSU, we have our Head Coach --- have a great day! ldskule: ldskule: ldskule: ldskule: ldskule: ldskule: ldskule: ldskule: ldskule: ldskule: ldskule:
BINGO! I don't even believe them when they report scores anymore. Every time they say USC wins I run to my CPU and look it up, just in case.
No respected analyst/reporter ever releases information about their sources. The story that was passed around locally here in Columbus, was that Herbie spoke with a UM person who was going to be involved in the announcement of Miles as the next coach. Beyond that no other information was given. Nobody called your coach a liar, and if you trully believe that Mile's never considered going to Michigan then you are just being naive. I really believe he was forced to make a decision earlier than he would have wanted to. No, I am not saying he made the right or wrong decision. But he did what was right for his players. Actually the fact that he stayed with his team shows a great deal of class on his behalf in my opinion. I am not the one who started thread or the one who brought Herbie's name into the discussion. I was actually invited to come on this board by a LSU fan on another OSU board, and was told this board invited the debate of the other team. I guess he was either wrong, or you are just taking things the wrong way.
Back to The Sports Reporters: For a dude that writes such heartwarming novels, Mitch Albom sure seems like a Grade A tool. :crystal:
If Herbie actually heard this from a respectable source he was being played like a fiddle either to pressure Miles to decide and announce sooner than he wanted to or to sabotage the coaching search. We all know the UM alums and boosters were at odds at who they wanted at coach and many of the higher ups did not want Miles. Everyone on this board knew Miles was going to consider going back to his Mater, so this info you are shooting out has already been discussed or wrong. You said nobody said Miles was a liar and that is completely false. This thread is about a show this morning where at least 2 of them implied he along with Saban and Petrino were Asp(the snake Cleopatra used to commit suicide) and mocked the claims that he has made up his mind. FWIW, I wouldnt use Herbie as your source for many reasons you discussed yourself. Pressure from ESPN and the fact that he was flat out wrong.
In your first post on this forum, You say you believe Herbie's story to have been true at the time. Of course that day Miles said it was not true. Fourth post here, you say nobody called our coach a liar. Wrong, you did in your first post. Indirectly, but not much different than actually saying it outright. We welcome rival fans and love to hear their thoughts. However, we will not let them get by with what you said in your first post.
Don't you see that there's a difference between Miles making a decision earlier than he wanted vs. "done deal"? Either Herbie got played -- which is a very real possibility -- or his Michigan source was so confident that CLM would accept an offer that he went overboard and told Herbie that it was a "done deal". Given the way UM's search was handled and some of the information that's come out about it, I wouldn't be surprised in people close to the search thought all they had to do was wink at CLM and he'd come running. CLM agreed to a contract extension with LSU Friday night, very reputable sources have confirmed this, and LSU's actions the morning of the story (telling ESPN their source was wrong before the story ran) attest to the accuracy of those reports. UM officials also immediately let ESPN know there was no deal in place as soon as Herbie "broke" the story. I don't doubt that CLM gave the UM job serious thought, but that in no way means there was a "done deal" before the SECCG, that he would have spoken to UM after the agreement on Friday (LSU sport info said he'd agreed to let UM know the afternoon after the game that he was staying at LSU), or that he would have accepted any offer. Herbie's source may have been a "good" one and believed the ink on a contract with CLM was all but signed -- even before any real contact between the two parties -- but unless Herbie heard it from CLM himself, there's no way anyone can say for sure that the story was true the day it broke on ESPIN.