Re: Obama silencing his critics the internet cannot murder 3000 people, but airplanes can murder many many more than that. thats the difference, case closed. yes, misuse of the internet is bad. that is why it should be managed by private industry and not the government. yes. when attacks come on the internet, i support the right of the american government to drop bombs on the nations from which those attacks originated. shutting down the internet in new york would cause more problems than it would solve. stop clamoring for the government to control everything. stop using fear as a tool of control.
Re: Obama silencing his critics The government takes responsibility for the management of air traffic, so it was not overreaching its authority post-9/11. To my knowledge, the government makes no claim to ownership or control of any aspect of the internet, beyond .gov sites.
Re: Obama silencing his critics Different situation, we have a different thread on this already, no need to bring up or respond here. This is an accident, not an attack by anyone. This is a question of standards and procedures, are they adequate, are they being followed. Or maybe we should all consider just how effective industry has been at preventing accidental drilling problems in the GOM. Yeah, just let industry handle it... Fail.
It's an overreach by the govt. Par for the course, but voters are tired of it. I see no valid argument for this to proceed. And I am tired of the govt constantly propping itself up as my defender, which outside of tanks and guns overseas, they clearly are not.
Re: Obama silencing his critics Something to ponder. Do you believe that the government would be able to secure this mythical kill switch? You know, like MMS works to keep oil drilling safe. If not, then what would be the ramifications of terrorists taking control of this mythical kill switch?
Re: Obama silencing his critics I would be outraged as well if Bush did this. No one deserves that much power. It is in effect an attack on the first amendment in my opinion. No I did not make that up what do you think the government is attempting to do with the fairness doctrine? They are trying to inhibit the right wing radio talk shows and support the more left wing (pro-government talk shows). They are trying to use the same idea and apply it to the internet, filter out what the government does not approve of and leave in what they does. Sorry I didn't answer this before I got distracted by an annoyance. No I really don't see an example of this. It is all a cost vs benefit thing. The cost of taking away freedom here does not out way the benefit of perhaps some sort of terrorist attack. At least not in my opinion.
Re: Obama silencing his critics I would still love some examples of attacks that you think would be catastrophic enough to warrant shutting down the internet. Your point here just leads to circular reasoning. If every valid cyber attack vector that was ever successfully exploited was known, then it wouldn't have happened because we would have known how to prevent it. That's why stuff like that works, and people like me have jobs. What makes you think the handling of future zero day attacks would be any different or less effective than those of the past? The internet isn't brand new. The private sector knows how to handle it. This course of action has effects in both directions. The internet makes it convenient to shop and conduct business remotely, but it also makes it equally more convenient to behave maliciously. You shut down the internet and sure, you may cripple the attackers, but you will also cripple EVERYONE else. There is NO scenario in which this "kill switch" ability is necessary, period.
Re: Obama silencing his critics They don't and they shouldn't same holds true for our health care. Government gets involved and screws it up worse than it was before.
