Interesting talk about the BCS on espn.com (lots of LSU chatter)

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  1. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Arkansas most likely. They will be in the top 8 of the polls with a win. They could choose LSU, I'm not sure who they think would bring more money into the city and give the most attractive matchup (Mallet at QB is a ratings draw, LSU has mad hatter).

    Sugar gets to take their replacement team and then gets to pick the opponent as well before the Orange or Fiesta gets to choose their opponent for their respective ACC and Big 12 Champs, respectively.

    Rose gets the Big 10 champ and then chooses either a PAC 10 team (because that's what they want) or one of the non-AQ teams if neither of them makes the BCS CG. What I'm not clear on is if they are forced to select either Boise or TCU or do they have the next 4 years to take care of that requirement. I've heard it stated both ways. Word on the street is they will fill that requirement THIS YEAR since Boise and TCU are ranked so high and it makes for an attractive matchup with Wisconsin/Ohio State/Michigan State. They are going to choose TCU in this scenario. Boise would got to the Fiesta and Stanford would be screwed altogether. The PAC-10 is raising hell over the Rose considering a non-AQ school over a PAC-10 team like Stanford (potential top 5 finish in the polls).
     
  2. gumborue

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    thanks
     
  3. WestCoastTiger

    WestCoastTiger Founding Member

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    islstl, you are funny. a bomb shelter to decide...:rofl:
     
  4. TCUTiger

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    To Islstl.............This late in the season what tends to affect computer
    rankings the most assuming teams keep winning. (how much affect is there in what teams do that you played in Sept etc):geauxtige
     
  5. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Most important components in computer rankings

    1. Top 10 wins
    2. Top 25 wins (some have top 15 wins as well)
    3. Strength of Schedule
    4. Who you lost to
    5. Number of losses

    Not necessarily in that order, but those are the things that dictate how strong your computer ranking is.

    So in other words, Alabama beating Auburn is actually great for LSU since Alabama will undoubtedly end up in the top 10 of every computer poll at season's end. Auburn still will be either #1 or #2 in every computer poll, even with a loss, so our lone loss is still to a top rated team.

    Mississippi State beating Ole Miss gets them back into the top 25 in most computer polls and would be a help as well for LSU.

    So it's these kinds of things that can make a difference in where you end up in each of the respective computer polls.

    TCU and Boise State could conceivably not end up with a top 25 win on their slate, and that would be quite sad (although VaTech would have to lose to Virginia for that to happen as well as the ACC CG).
     
  6. Hawker45

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    If Oregon plays either TCU or Boise State in the Championship game, the Rose Bowl is not required to take the one (TCU or Boise) that doesn't make it to the championship game.
    If neither Boise State or TCU make the championship game against Oregon, the Rose, by requirement, will match the Big Ten Champ against the higher ranked of TCU and Boise.
    If Oregon does not make it to the championship game, The PAC 10 champ will play the Big Ten champ in the Rose Bowl.
    If Michigan State, tOSU and Wisconsin all win this week, the highest ranked team, which is now Wisconsin, goes.

    Therefore (whew), if somehow Oregon plays either TCU or Boise State in the championship game, the Rose is free to match Stanford against the Big Ten designated Champ... and most likely will.
     
  7. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    I read the first two statements several times and all I see is a contradiction.

    Can you please restate that in another way?

    I assume you meant:

    If NEITHER Boise State or TCU make the championship game against Oregon, the Rose, by requirement, will match the Big Ten Champ against the higher ranked of TCU and Boise.

    Which is what I believe to be true. But my question is about the "next 4 years" rule. Supposedly the Rose has 4 years to decide to meet that requirement, but that the chatter is the Rose will meet that requirement this year since TCU or Boise State will be rated so high (in other words, they don't want to take a chance a year or two from now that they end up taking a 1 loss #12 ranked Boise or TCU, as an example).
     
  8. Hawker45

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    changed it, line two should be neither not either, my bad.
     
  9. BrettStah

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    My understanding is that the Rose Bowl MUST take a non-AQ team - they don't have the option to pick which year. (They only "must" if a non-AQ team is eligible under the criteria only mentioned, and a non-AQ isn't in the title game).
     
  10. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Yeah it appears from the following statement (exact BCS verbage) that they MUST take them:

    "For the games of January 2011 through 2014, the first year the Rose Bowl loses a team to the NCG and a team from the non-AQ group is an automatic qualifier, that non-AQ team will play in the Rose Bowl."

    Technically neither TCU or Boise State is guaranteed to be "an automatic qualifier" since only 1 such non-AQ team is an automatic qualifier (i.e., finishing in the top 12 of the BCS). One of the BCS bowls MUST pick one or the other, but they are not obligated to pick BOTH. But I guess that's just being a bit picky with that BCS verbage I posted.
     

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