The problem with you applying common sense is that it doesn't mean **** in the court system. Legal precedent does. That's not liberal or conservative. That's factual and logic. Unless of course you are implying that liberals have cornered the market on facts and logic...
LOL... I confess to knowing little about tennis. I tried it a few times because of my wife. Easily the hardest sport I ever played. Not real sure why knowing the rules of tennis disqualifies someone from knowing more about the Constitution. Are we going to see Chief Justice Serena Williams in the future?
First of all, why do you keep referring to people who want to exercise personal freedom as "freeloaders?" I won't be in this number, because I'm getting on in years and don't want to take the risk, also I have a family to care for. But let's say I was 25, gainfully employed. I'd rather invest my money than pay for health insurance. So long as I pay for my medical bills, how am I freeloading? Now then, the plan I suggested, as applied to the hypothetical 25 year old me: I tell the government my choice; why does it take any more government to note that choice on a computer somewhere than if, say, I were to get married and have to refile? Once again, so long as I pay, no government involvement. If I get in a car wreck and can't pay, then the government steps in, but part of the process demands my repayment. It takes no more than the HR manager at my company to make one more deduction on my check. There's no garnishing, no court proceedings, no cops knocking at my door. Its taken off the top just like my taxes. Now, the Obamacare way, the way you advocate, will respond to my choice to exercise personal freedom and responsibility by fining or taxing me, whatever term you wish to use. I haven't stuck my hand out to anyone, haven't been any drain on the public trough, yet the government automatically digs in my pocket. My way; possible government involvement Your way; guaranteed government involvement
I already said it. People without health insurance end up in emergency rooms for free care and the insured peoples rates go up. Or they end up at free county clinics and charity hospitals paid for by taxpayers. Freeloaders. Because when you need a $35,000 kidney transplant you'll end up in charity hospital. Or when you get in a car wreck and are taken to the emergency room and run up a $40,000 Intensive care bill that you can't pay. Or you stay healthy and don't pay premiums for 30 years and then wait until you are 60 to start paying for the reasons that you mention. Then all of the rest of us have paid higher premiums because you freeloaded for 30 years. Great, so instead of buying insurance like everybody else, you want a government bureaucracy dedicated to extracting money from people who can't pay. :huh: You want the freedom to be irresponsible and be a burden upon society? My way = private insurance is available for all citizens. The only government involvement is a law that says you can't freeload on the system. Pure and simple. Your way = government records must be kept at emergency rooms, free clinics, and charity hospitals and those not on the list must be investigated, sought out, and court proceedings taken to encumber paychecks from the employed and to get nothing whatsoever from the unemployed. Government bureaucracy to establish records, government investigators, government police better used elsewhere, government court expenses, and everybody pays for lawyers. What a mess.
how am i a freeloader if i go to a charity hospital? taxpayers dont pay for charity hospitals. if they do how is it charity?
40,000$ I. C. U. Bill- that's the real problem. My boy just had to have an MRI with contrast and another without. He also had a ct scan of his brain. He spent about 6 hours in the hospital lab having these three test. The combined total for these three test were almost 6,000$ of which I am responsible of some %. I don't know just how much yet. How is it that a seven year old having three test cost so much. A thousand dollars an hour? This is the real problem. The cost seems a little high , don't you think? The machine cost alot but come on. The hospial made up for the cost of the machine in the first month or two at a thousand dollars an hour. The raping of the average American by the medical industry is why health insurance is so high. It's also the reason Medicare and medicade are going bankrupt. I don't have any answers. I don't know where to start. I know that the hospital charged almost a hundred dollars for just administration cost. I didn't know it was over 100$ for an I. V. Kit. The medical industry along with the pharm companies are driving the cost of healthcare. Until this is under control, all the rest is sideshows.
You can't possibly be this stupid. Who do you think owns the Louisiana Charity Hospital System . . . the government of Louisiana.
Weather you agree with ObamaCare or not (and I don't), I haven't read a post here that says the current health care system is perfectly fine. Republicans are trying and will continue to try to derail ObamaCare but what is their solution for the rising costs of health care? Without a Republican option all we have is ObamaCare or the current system. No one likes the current system so that leaves ObamaCare by default. This issue was forced on the Republicans as a result of the election. The president gets to set the agenda and the Republicans failed to respond other than just categorically denying health care reform. I think they dropped the ball on this.
