I'm done with LSU football

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  1. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Not really, but I figured stupid thread titles were the order of the day. Can't wait for Auburn and another SEC win for LSU.

    TC, danthetigerfan, and all of the trolls, etc., congrats. This is your time to shine. Enjoy.

    That is all.
     
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  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I guess this just wasn't the day to stop sniffing airplane glue.

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  3. Bayou Tiger

    Bayou Tiger Founding Member

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    I've actually never been so happy about a loss. Now, I hate losing games but I saw that our defense is good enough to win a National Championship.

    Our offense is hurting but we just need to better utilize our offensive weapons so we can score points to help them out.
     
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  4. LSUGradin99

    LSUGradin99 I Bleedeth Purple 'N Gold

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    How about breaking the game down for us SabanFan. What are your thoughts? What should the team do from here? How are you feeling about the season? Are you optimistic? Are your hopeful? Are your apprehensive? ets hear what you have to say.

    As much as the haters can get on our nerves, your threads like this are equally annoying at times.

    I know you have passion for our tigers too, so how about being constructive and discussing them with the rest of us? I really never see you do that very much. I know you can!!!
     
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  5. geauxtigs

    geauxtigs Tigers Forever

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    :geaux: I think Tigerdroppings must have made a mass migration to TF.:rolleye33: I've never before seen as many idiots on this board as I have the last two weeks. Pitiful. :LSU231:
     
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  6. ParadiseiNC

    ParadiseiNC don't worry, be happy

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    You know, I was thinking that this morning. I have only been to the TD website once, over a year ago. What I liked about this site was the quality of discussions. That seems to have changed this season, and certainly today there are a lot of "I used to post here", or just new names on the board with nothing but criticizing. The offense definitely warrants some criticism, but a lot of the threads are over the top.
     
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  7. TexasTigers

    TexasTigers Are You With Me ?

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    I have really enjoyed the new found Ignore feature for me, now if people would stop "quoting" their posts.

    So I am what you guys refer to as a "Sunshine Pumper"

    So I will answer you questions.

    What did I think about that game - Disappointed but understand LSU competed and played well on Defense and we obviously have issues on offense. However if I had to pick a side of a ball with Problems, I am pleased as could be its NOT the defense (See Arkansas, Auburn etc). They can fix it, I think tonight was a sign that Miles and crew will have to try different things. I have faith they will. BUt I said before the game, I want us to compete if we lose but compete I will be fine with that. So I am fine with it. Sure I wanted to win, but I also understand it is impossible to win every game. But compete. They did just that.
    The only negative thing about the defense so far is the fact we have what 0 sacks. Although we had one last night had there not been a face mask penalty.

    Am I optimistic ? YES !!! Very.....
    Will we lose again - YES !!! (I think 10-2 9-3 is what I have always thought)
    Is this a great group of Tigers - Yes
    Do we need to change up the offense - Yes
    Is our D much improved - Yes
    Do we need "Fire Miles" - Dumbest thing I have ever heard
     
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  8. JohnLSU

    JohnLSU Tigers

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    That's fascinating. How did you come to this understanding? :)
     
  9. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    This is just not true!:rolleye33:
    I heard for a fact that we've had LSU players in football and basketball that NEVER lost a high school football or basketball if memory serves me correctly.
    I do have grey hair btw but....:redface:

    I believe it was JR and Shaq?

    AU also went undefeated a few years back btw!
     
  10. houtiger

    houtiger Founding Member

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    I been looking for the right thread to put my one post with my balanced thoughts on the game. This is as good a thread as any.

    First, I find many of the unbalanced and negative posts to be just that, and posted by folks with little perspective on the game.

    We are 5-1 and just lost a good game to the #1 team in the country by 10 points, and they cheated to get 7 of their points. Our defense has come around, and I agree with Gary Danielson, our back 7 are as good as any in the nation, just as good as Fla. defending national champion defense. Our front 4 does not dominate, but we didn't blitz either, played it straight up front.

    Crowton is not an idiot and does not need to be replaced. Remember 07, when he had a 5th yr. sr. run the offense, it was excellent.

    The offense was very conservative, too conservative in the opinion of many, especially with our wide out talent. I'd agree, on the surface. Why was it too conservative?
    1. Jefferson can't read offenses and Crowton is hamstrung by what JJ can read and execute.
    2. Miles is dictating the offense to "commit to the run" and not letting Crowton do his thing.

    I suspect some of both, but note, Meyer ran a VERY CONSERVATIVE offense also, put me to sleep.

    I think Miles will go with a formula that wins, until it stops winning. Maybe he thinks he can out-personnel everyone, and usually he's right, until the big games. Maybe this loss will cause him to ask, what does he need to do to win the SEC this year, which we are still in the running for.

    What do we have LaFell, Tolliver, Randall for? We were not balanced, underutilized the pass. When we threw, I don't remember many initial catches beyond 5 yards downfield.

    Either JJ is not good at the medium or long passes, or he's good and not trusted. If he's not trusted, then he's no good to you. JJ is interesting. At times, when they need a drive, he can hit 5 medium passes in a row and he looks like a world beater. He's usually rolling to his right when at his best. When he drops back in the pocket with time to survey the field, he looks lost and is frequently sacked. That's unusual QB play...

    JJ has not been able to rev this offense up this year. I think we thought too much of him after the Ga. Tech game, and their D is not like SEC defenses, or JJ had one great night, or the Tech D had a bad night. That's what I warned about before the season, JJ's inexperience.

    Yea, I know, the o-line play is sub par, and that true also. It's all the coaches responsibility to coach em up and teach em how its done, that's true too. But, we may have all been believing the press clippings on these kids, and we may be short some talent on the o-line this year. Or maybe they're young and will be better next year when they develop (cept Black, he's gone).

    My personal opinion, Fla. has a better team, particularly on offense, we are just as good on defense as Fla. Fla. has us outclassed badly at QB, their #2 would be our starter, based on the little I've seen of him. QB is the most important position on the team, and it hurts us a lot.

    I think most of us that did not pick LSU undefeated this year projected this game as a loss, and we've improved and kept it much closer than last year. I'm frustrated with the offense, but it's at the low end of my expectations for the year. I was worried about JJ being a true soph, and that what we would see was a lot more of what he did against Arkansas last season rather than his great outing against Tech in the bowl game.

    We should still be a top 10 team. There is still half a season to go. We have one loss, a close one to the #1 team in the nation. We're doing good overall. We need to improve on offense. We still suffer a hangover from losing RP at QB. He would be a Sr. if he hadn't blown himself up. I think that negatively impacted our ability to sign a top QB for a few years, and the coaches compounded the problem by failing to recruit well there.

    Now to the QB position, what to do? If we can't get the offense out of first gear, I'd like to see us make a change, but not with the starter. I'd start JJ. If you want a more aggressive O, you have to play it all the time, you can't play conservative most of the time and try to change your personality to wide open in an instant. JJ needs more opportunities to throw medium routes to the WR. Then, I'd give other QB's an opportunity to play, Lee deserves another opportunity. Shepard, it depends on his arm. You can't have a running QB that can't throw. Shep could get 8 touches in the wildcat. If he can throw, maybe he deserves a shot, but the coaches see that in practice, I don't, and I have no opinion on it. Nobody mentions Chris Garrett, who IMO has the best pure passing arm on the team, based on the few throws I saw him make in the spring game. If we need a passing game and it is not available from JJ, Lee and Shep, maybe we take the redshirt off Garrett and give him an opportunity to help us win the west.

    Kinda long, but those are my midseason ideas. I'm not posting as much, busy at work, and I'm not enjoying the irrational negatigers.
     
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