If the QB play doesn't improve over the summer

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  1. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    I linked his stats in the post above. Not Heisman stats but pretty damn good. He had a ton of TD's, a lot of yards and a high completion percentage. He did have more picks than you would like, but overall pretty damn good. He also led LSU to victory in major games. Flynn on last years team would have been a monumental improvement, running game or not. Had there been a consistent QB in the lineup last season the running game might have been a little better also. There wasn't much need for defenses to get out of the box.
     
  2. TigerBait3

    TigerBait3 Guest

    I know. I did.
    Dont worry, I wont.

    That percentage would have placed him at 86th in the country this past year. Right behind the always reliable, Terrelle Pryor.

    Incorrect. I did.

    Im not saying he was a bad QB - just that he wasnt a security blanket. He went out and made plays...and threw picks. Remember when that helped score points? Remember when curling into the fetal position (like Jefferson did last year) didnt move the ball. Thats all Im saying.
     
  3. Fishhead

    Fishhead Founding Member

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    You linked his stats while I was typing...not fair. :wave:

    I guess it's a "which came first, the chicken or the egg?" question. However, I was at the opening game of the season (at MSU) in '07. I assure you, the running game and defense came first. It was after that the offense was able to open up. And yes, I agree Flynn was very capable of opening it up. But KW, Scott, and of course Hester provided the opportunities. Remember the UF game that year? Hester kept those drives alive...not Flynn. And UF knew it was coming. Our running game was just better than them.

    With that said, NEITHER of these guys are as good as Flynn...or Mauck. More talented? Maybe. They just don't have it upstairs like those two...and I ain't talking about book smarts. One is a headcase come game time because of his past critical mistakes. The other is a headcase due to the former's issues...and not wanting to have the same happen to him. Neither is leader material. Mauck and Flynn were leaders.
     
  4. downtown

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    YEP. To be frank, this schedule is a BIOOOTCH. It's one of the toughest schedules I ever remember LSU having because it's not loaded with cupcakes in the beginning and there are only two games that I would call easy ones (McNeese and UL Monroe - unless the UL Monroe that beat Bama that year shows up).

    -We start off with a bowl team in North Carolina at the Georgia Dome
    -Then go to Vandy (which is typically not real easy because they play hard on defense)
    -Miss. St. at home (they were 100% improved last year and it took a near miracle for us to beat them thanks to Chad Jones)
    -Tenn. at home (always tough)
    -West Virginia at home (another bowl team with a superstar RB)
    -Florida in the Swamp (even without Tebow, etc., one of the toughest places to play)
    -And then we still have games at Auburn and at Arkansas to go along with Bama at home in the back half

    They're gonna need to be in top shape in game 1.
     
  5. downtown

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    I don't know, I think our running game just sucked last year. Jefferson threw for over 230 yds. against Miss. State, but we averaged 1-yd per rush. He threw for 240+ against Auburn, but we didn't have much of anything on the ground other than Shep's long TD run. He threw for 250+ against Ole Miss and we didn't come close to approaching 100 yards on the ground. And against Penn St. he threw for 200+ and we had almost nothing on the ground.

    So even in games when he had good yardage throwing the ball, our running game didn't take off. We just didn't have it last year.

    Flynn would have helped on a team like that because Flynn made quicker decisions. He threw a pretty good number of picks and had his share of bad decisions, but he was GREAT in the clutch. He had a quick recovery rate after making bad plays. He'd come back, take a calculated risk and usually make it pay off.

    Against Bama he had a first half with three picks, but then he brought us back in the 2nd half and hit his receiver on 4th down with the game on the line. Against Florida he had a 4th down TD pass to Byrd in the 4th quarter. Against Auburn he had a hell of a game with an unbelievable TD throw to win it (though he did almost let the clock run out calling the play). And in the BCS Championship, he was just great. With him you could cover a lot of ground pretty quickly. JJ's not at that point yet and that's the difference. JJ is generally accurate and uses his feet well at times. But he doesn't allow himself to make more plays down field because he's gun shy or not quite reading the D fast enough yet (or being nailed by D-linemen which was an issue at times last year).
     
  6. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    i have a bad feeling we are going to lose one this year to a team we have absolutely no business losing to.
     
  7. TigerCliff

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    who ever is the QB in the 4th quarter that leads us to a win against the Tar Heels will the QB that throws the winning TD in the 4th quarter on our return trip to Atlanta.


    :tigereye:cliff
     
  8. QBLuke

    QBLuke Hickey Da God

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    You mean like 95% of college football teams every year? Oh no!
     
  9. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    And not doing a very good job of it.

    All of this wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth over the spring performance of a couple of young QBs is not even mildly entertaining, let alone informative.:dis:
     
  10. TigerCliff

    TigerCliff Veteran Member

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    Ok

    I got you quoted

    Why after all the info on this thread this is what you are going to bring up?

    Is it a cliff thing or just because your bored and nothing really to talk about.

    I think the concern at QB is the #1 thing for all Tiger fans to be talking about. What we saw Sat feed the fear. Nothing I saw Sat makes me have any hope in JJ and I am 80% sure CLM will stay with JJ. The other side of the story would be that JJ turns on the lights and finds someone home.


    Geaux Tigers:tigereye:
     

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