I will not watch another LSU football game with Lee as a starter

Funny, I can see why some people actually like you now.

Hopefully people have blown off the steam they were feeling.

 

There is a big difference between this year and next year.
Bring it on, I'll bring all the Brady threads up where you took up for him and we'll have a good laugh together.
Hell, If Tigerforums was around you would be sticking up for Dinardo after the football team lost to the Houston Cougars his last year.

Anyway, fat chance that Lee will turn into Dan Marino in an LSU uniform.
I actually hope you are right but I wouldn't bet on it!

Yes, we know all about that from your positions on Perrilloux and Brady.
So far I'm 2-0 on you so don't get your hopes up to high.
You've been on the losing end.
You better be right because now I'm going to make fun of you old goat!

Bring it on,
I have no problems with people getting a good laugh with me but I will make damn sure they have something to laugh at you
There is no doubt most people in this forum are frustrated with Lee during this season and after this weekend.
Notice, I didn't say anything after the Florida or Georgia games, I waited until the season was almost over.

 

No, It is such a bad assumption by most that JJ in fact could be worse than Lee.
Show me where anyone suggested that he wouldn't make mistakes but would it be any worse than 2 a game and a pick 6?
Highly doubtful!
This is my last post about the Bama game, I'm done about that damn game.
It will be interesting to see if anyone other than Lee plays the rest of the year.

 

Who will you blame if Jefferson plays and struggles?

It might not be any better.

 

Are you saying Lee isn't struggling?
Oh, you mean the way JR struggled his first year.
I'm sure everyone expected new qb's to struggle but maybe you should just put JJ in the game at some point that you did when Hatch was around for the same reasons you alternated Hatch and Lee to start the season.
Bottomline is at least people could see that you are using all your weapons.

I'm not into talking or debating unless people are going to be serious.
I think you are just trying to bait me at this point.

 

So you were serious when you said you weren't going to watch another game Lee starts?
How can you expect others to be serious when the title of this thread is so absurd?
I agree that they should have at least put JJ in the game for some plays.
But I don't think that JJ should be the starter.
We can agree that if the coaches don't start putting JJ in the game, then WTF.
That I don't get.

 

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Obviously you didn't read the thread or you would've discovered that Twisted who is a saints fan said this many times but still watches the games anyway.

Then why did you waste your time?
You didn't bother to read some of it anyway!:lol:

I stated my opinon and you stated yours, fair enough.

I say WTF anyway?
People take things the wrong way in this forum.

I now have to go to work,
Goodbye

 

Correct.

Wasted far less time not reading.

Power of the internets.

People take LSU losses wrong also. The power has balanced.

 

I purposely stayed away from the forums for a few days to make sure that I didn't come on here and start saying things that were emotion driven.

I was prepared to come on here and talk substantually about Lee's imperfections. Trust me, I see him making PLENTY OF MISTAKES.

But when I see multiple threads like this, it gets my fire going again. Especially when people make up facts or try and say things as if they know.

I've seen multiple people saying "A Freshman QB certainly wouldn't play WORSE than JLee."

That simply IS NOT TRUE.

Look at Lee compared to Matthew Stafford his Freshman season.

Stafford's Stats as follows: In 13 games, 135 of 256 for 1749. 52.9% and 6.8 ypa. 13 INTS 7 TDS. QB Rating of 108.98. 19 Atts a game for 134.5 ypg.

Lee's Stats through 9 games: 119 of 223 for 1608. 53.4% and 7.2 ypa. 14 INTS 13 TDS. 120.61 QB Rating. ~25 Atts a game for 178.7 ypg.

I've said this many times before in other threads that they're simply asking Lee to throw the ball TOO MUCH. He should be averaging around 19 passes a game. Last Saturday they asked him to throw the ball 34 times!

And I know some people are going to come here and say that Stafford can "scramble", but the facts don't show that that had any impact. Stafford only scrambled for ~14 yards a game. Hardly enough to make any difference. We've only seen Lee scramble really 1 time.

If you TRUTHFULLY compare Lee's stats, then you can't say he's as bad as many are trying to. He already has ALMOST DOUBLE the TD's Stafford had as a Freshman, while the same INT'S. That says something right there.

Simply put, Lee's on a better path than Stafford. He's stayed in the pocket many times and taken the hit to pass the ball. It's almost as if people believe that Lee is purposely trying to lose when I'm sure he's his own hardest critic. (on a side note: Flynn's senior season his QB rating was only 125.77. If you go by that Lee is hardly a drop at the QB position at all. Our defense is the biggest difference between last season and now.)

Yes, Lee made some bad passes during the Bama game. Yes he made some stupid mistakes. Some stupid mistakes that most likely cost us the game. Some stupid FRESHMAN mistakes.

But I put more blame on the coaches than on Lee. WTF are you doing using the "wild tiger" formation on 2nd and 4/5 in Overtime when you just powered the ball down the middle for 5/6 yards? That was a STUPID play call.

I said multiple times in the game thread, STOP THROWING SLANTS and passes over the middle. Work the sidelines. That allows Lee to throw it where only the reciever can catch it or it goes out of bounds.

People also forget that LSU wouldn't have even went to overtime if not for 3 big passes on their last scoring drive. Two to Tolliver down the sideline, that opened up the middle of the field and allowed for a big LaFell pass.

ISL also pointed out that 4 WR spreads and a delayed handoff seemed to work REALLY WELL. Yet we only saw it a few times during the game.

CGC continued to try to force the ball across the middle when it's obvious Lee doesn't feel comfortable with those passes. Heck why not do more fades? Lee has the arm and he had 1 big fade pass to Byrd that went for a TD, and 1 BIG fade that mitchell should have cought for a huge pass if not a TD. Why not do it more?

Or how about on 3rd and 17 go down the field instead of a short SLANT to the middle that had no chance to make the 1st down.

I think that play really broke Lee's confidence, even though it wasn't his fault.

I've also seen many people say Lee is not a fighter. I don't think that's true at all. I think he's actually a bit too much of a fighter. Remember JMarc until basically halfway through his junior year? He tried to force passes to make a play. That's what I see Lee doing. He's trying to lead his team back by forcing passes.

The OT pass was one of those instances. If he were afraid he'd have thrown that ball away, but instead he desperately wanted to win the game for LSU and tried to force a pass into double coverage. May QB's do that. They want to make something happen and it ends up hurting the team. And I think the majority of Lee's INT's were of that kind. LSU being down and Lee trying to force a pass to get something going.

Yes, he doesn't have the ability to CONSISTENTLY make those passes yet, and so he throws INT's. But don't question his drive, because I think that's what gets him in trouble in most cases.

I remember JMarc's last season sitting in the living room when half my family was yelling for Flynn because of how bad he was playing, yet he ended up being the no.1 overall draft pick.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, yes this is a rough time for LSU. Yes, QB play hasn't been amazingly, but Lee is NOT the worst freshman QB. There have been many worse, and some have went on to be great QB's.

So how about stop Boo'ing a freshman QB who's trying to win games and simply doesn't have the skills to do it yet.