I Like Lee

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Word from Perriloux at the time he committed was that Saban's departure was what caused him to reconsider LSU and listen to Les.
     
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  2. Attack Tiger

    Attack Tiger Reformed Sunshine Pumper

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    With a name like Colt McCoy, he was destined to be the Quarterback for Texas.

    The only thing that would be funnier would be if wound up unseating Romo!
     
  3. lsu_dane

    lsu_dane Founding Member

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    I double checked the committment lists and saw that yes, I was 1 year off. I kept thinking that McCoy was a TRUE Junior, when I forgot that he sat out his first year because of VY.

    I'm also not griping. I'm simply looking for answers as to why we're in our current QB situation.

    JR and MF were both RS SO's correct? I can't remember. So doesn't that make 2 and possibly 3 years that Saban went without getting a QB? Again, I'm not griping about the talent Saban left, but it's obvious he wasn't concerned about LSU once he got his NC because he didn't grab a QB.

    As far as the character issue goes, I don't know if Miles knew or not. I don't remember hearing anything at the time about RP being a bad kid. I could possibly not be remembering everything though.

    But I can't fault Miles for bringing RP in. He saw we had a need at QB and brought in the no.1 player in the country in his first class. Even if he knew about RP possibly having some arrogance issues, I think he still had to roll the dice because there would have been such a big gap in QB's otherwise.

    And obviously at least for awhile RP was on the straight and narrow because Miles was confident enough in him in '06 to not get a QB and then get a highly talented project QB in '07.

    My only point is that there was a 2 - 3 year gap where we didn't pick up a QB.

    Effectively causing Miles to have to put all his eggs in RP. That didn't work out so well, but the blame doesn't fall on Lee for starting much sooner than expected. It falls on those people who allowed the QB position to get like it did. Possibly a little foresight by the coaches could have avoided this situation. But then again, it's very hard to project what will happen multiple years into the future.
     
  4. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    It's not that QB's were not being recruited it's that we were loaded with very high quality QB's that had a lot of eligibility left. Many top notch QB recruits saw their chances of getting PT before their Jr year as highly unlikely. Many recruits look at ability to play in their early years pretty hard. Especially a position like QB, you don't rotate 7-8 like you do DL. Both Miles and Saban recruited hard, they just had a hard time spacing QB recruits over the years mostly because of who they already had.
     
  5. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    I think these are all interesting points. You can't recruit the top QB's every year, unless you're USC I suppose. And recruits leave programs all the time, but usually because of a lack of playing time. How often does a player as talented as RP, leave on the eve of taking the team over, because he can't keep his head screwed on straight?

    It happens, but not very often, and when was the last time it happened to LSU? It was absolutely the right thing to do, but has caused us to experience severe growing pains with Lee.
     
  6. lsu_dane

    lsu_dane Founding Member

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    That's mostlikely the best explaination on the matter.

    Although, there are very few positions that you can come in and play as a freshman or very few players who are ready to come in and fill a position.

    Maybe LSU can point to the recent success they've had with getting QB's drafted who only played 1 - 2 years at their position as a way to curb QB's desires to come in and start right away.
     
  7. StaceyO

    StaceyO Football Turns Me On

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    We recruited QB's every year, but it is as was suggested. Our log jam at QB caused talented guys to go elsewhere.
     
  8. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    I misspoke. When I said "recruited", I meant signed. I think we actively recruit every year, but agree some kids shied away because of who was on campus. Heck, we lost 2 QB recruits last year for that reason.

    Certainly will be a log jam next year with Hatch, Lee, Jefferson, Shepard, and Garrett. Can't think of the preferred walkon's name. And apparently looking at 1-2 more Qbs in 2010. Some of them will no doubt transfer.
     
  9. lsu_dane

    lsu_dane Founding Member

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    I don't think Hatch or Garrett will transfer. Hatch won't be able to play no matter where he goes. I suppose if a 1-AA team runs the wishbone Hatch could do that, but I still doubt he leaves. Either he wins out a starting position or he comes in with clean up duty.

    Garrett will recieve a RS, which will provide enough of a stagger that I think he stays with the possibility of starting his Junior year, taking over Lee / Jefferson's role.

    The biggest risk will be between Jefferson or Lee. With Shepard being the run option QB, that means Jefferson or Lee will be the deep pocket passer. Whoever loses that battle might just transfer since Garrett will still be there to take over for the winner when he moves on.

    The only thing that changes that is a injury. Not a bad position for LSU to be in, not too much for the kids though.

    Oh and let's not even get into the possibility of them bringing in a QB in '10.
     
  10. Attack Tiger

    Attack Tiger Reformed Sunshine Pumper

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    So you see us continuing the two quarterback system...one being a drop-back passer and one being the option guy? I'm not a fan of that unless each can do the other's job to some extent and the coaches actually use it.
     

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