I call your boycott and raise you your lights

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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    the illegal drugs will be just like the legal drugs, alcohol and nicotine. nobody will buy from criminal druglords when they can buy from normal companies. i dont buy beer from al capone, i buy it from anheuser busch.
     
  2. PURPLE TIGER

    PURPLE TIGER HOPE is not a strategy!

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    It may not be an issue to you but you don't speak on behalf of the rest of the nation. It's an issue in most states including LA, MS, and AL where many law enforcement officers are now taking Spanish courses to communicate with Spanish-speaking (only) criminals and victims. That's an impact which is also hitting your tax dollars whether you're aware or not.
     
  3. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    One more thing because I don't really enjoy criticizing without offering some kind of solution. What some of you will never understand or admit is that migration is a fact of life, just like weather and aging. Man has been doing it since the dawn of time and it's not going to stop. Do you know why? Because it can't be stopped. Funding for immigration enforcement has increased dramatically over the past decade and what do we have to show for it? Dramatically increased numbers of immigrants migrating into our country.

    What it boils down to is this: “If you had to support your family on $3-a-day or less, but had the opportunity to cross a border illegally to raise your living standard, would you migrate?”

    Who wouldn't?

    The issue is an international issue and it won't go away until people no longer have a reason to migrate. Conservatives in France, Italy, Spain, etc. all have taken up the same banner, but have been more extreme than Americans. Living conditions in Mexico and further south (and other countries around the world) need to improve before we see any significant slowing of illegal immigration. Pass all the xenophobic laws you like, but it's not going to make a dent in the illegal immigration population. You want real change, push for change in our trade policies. Change the reason that immigrants cross borders or the debates never get resolved; they just get recycled. Of course that's going to require some of you to start thinking like a person rather than a business. Meanwhile, actual American citizens are going to he harassed, detained, etc. because they "look illegal" and that's bull****.

    Great job. Way to embrace the worst of Europe, America...
     
  4. Deceks7

    Deceks7 Founding Member

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    This is not a flippant response, but that last part of the quote really hit me. Thinking like a business is what developed the opportunities that these folk are trying to come here for. A business will not remain solvent if it takes on all applicants.

    Many of the "great" nations suffered "migration" because of territorial expansion. Today's mass "migration" is not because we are finding new resources to develop. The migration is to exploit the resources we have already developed. When the US embraced immigration we had a lot of undeveloped lands and resources. Huge fundamental difference.

    What is happening today is like that in the fable of killing the goose that laid the golden egg.





    Now, on a more flippant yet serious note; look what happen to the American Indians who could not stop the flow of illegal immigration.
     
  5. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    terrible analogy. citizens are not employees of the government.


    this is an even worse analogy. if we were stone-age savages i would hope the white man came here and made a democracy.
     
  6. Deceks7

    Deceks7 Founding Member

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    Immigration policy isn't a personal one but rather a function of government. Did you mean to respond here?
     
  7. Deceks7

    Deceks7 Founding Member

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    You think the way we treated the Indians was democratic?
     
  8. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i simply cant see why you think this is relevant. but to answer your question, i think it is pretty clear that the white man immigrating to america has really helped modernize it. indians are morons that throw spears and ****. this is the least relevant analogy ever considered by anyone.
     
  9. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i have no idea what youa re talking about. i still think most of you oppose immigration because you are racists. and i love racism too but sometimes it is irrational. you guys are like a baseball GM that hates latinos and wont sign them to play for the team. your racism is fine morally but hurting the team terribly.
     
  10. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    No. He's saying it was OK to destroy their civilization and steal their land because they were illiterate, dark skinned and lived in a way that the white man thought was primitive (or "savage" as martin would say). The irony....
     

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