I call your boycott and raise you your lights

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by SabanFan, May 19, 2010.

  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    :huh: What is wrong with trying combat voter fraud?

    If you can't, then you can't do much business anywhere in the world. What is wrong with combating identity theft and illegal foreigners.

    The police have to find out what is going on. He could have been a burglar lying about it. He could have owned the house, but it was his separated wife's legal residence and he had no right to be there. The police have a right to investigate possible crimes to find out what is going on . . . including who the players are. What is wrong with that?
     
  2. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    Why does this matter to you? Do you live in AZ? Residents of AZ seem to be in favor of it, so what's your point? The AZ legislature should check with non-residents of their state before enacting legislation?
    The law specifically prohibits profiling based upon race. Imagining that it could happen anyway is no reason not to have a law.
    Meaningless lawsuits happen everyday. Should cops stop enforcing laws because their is a risk of being sued? Obviously the tax payers of AZ feel it is worth the risk, so why are you so concerned about how they spend their money?
    Actually it gives local authorities the right to detain suspected illegals for federal incarceration or deportation. Sounds like it is enforcing a law to me.
    Appears to have already had an impact. It is in the news daily and is being discussed extensively, even on a college sports forum. I would say the heightened awareness to the issue shows an effect. If nothing "positive" happens, it will be the fault of our federal govt., not this law. As to "the fringe", nearly 60% of Americans agree with the law. I was not a math major, but that is not "fringe".
    And the feds do not enforce it.
    Probably because it has become a national issue for the federal govt. Ignoring it will be to the further peril of any incumbents.
    There probably are some state laws regarding that already. Should they not enforce those either because, you know, they could get sued?
     
  3. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    I'm sure the Mexican cartels are just going to shrug their shoulders and walk away from their multi-million dollar enterprises. But,the bright side is that kids will be able to pick up a nickel bag of crack along with their Nehi Grape.
     
  4. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    you dont buy your alcohol from bootlegging gangsters, it isnt necessary. if drugs are legal they will be sold exactly like cigarettes or beer. no murderous cartels.

    kids have access to drugs already. nothing will change in that department.
     
  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    They can already. But if we as parents educate our kids instead of lying through our teeth about it, maybe they won't want to.

    And the cartels are about making money, they would be losing money trying to smuggle a product into the United States they cant offload. You don't see any Mexicans smuggling tortillas or tequila over the border do you?
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    What else can they do? No demand = no profits.
     
  7. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    It sets a precedent that could impact all of us eventually. Are you not aware of how our judicial system works and how cases are argued?

    They did? Oh, thank goodness. Now it will never happen. :insane:

    Give me a break. That's to cover the collective asses of government officials.

    That's actually a fantastic reason to not have a law. It takes time and effort away from passing legislation that really matters.

    They won't be sued for enforcing this ridiculous law. They'll be sued for racial profiling. To answer your question, yes they should stop enforcing meaningless laws especially if they risk getting sued over it. I like to keep my taxes to a minimum and my police force to be effective/

    That's because you're gullible and easily fooled.

    I said "positive impact on illegal immigration". Read the entire sentence next time. The only positive impact thus far is selling ad revenue on TV and Radio.

    That's not all "fringe" voters. A lot of them are racist and others are just plain stupid. The "fringe" are the ones pushing for it.

    Because it's un-enforceable without stepping all over the civil rights of American citizens. What's more important: stopping a few illegal immigrants or maintaining the civil liberties of all American citizens?

    It's not a national issue. Most citizens in non-Mexican border states could give a **** less.
     
  8. Swerved

    Swerved It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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    They'll have to start selling table salt, because that will soon be illegal here too...:wink:
     
  9. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Don't be naive. You think drugs will be legal so you can just run down to Walgreens and pick up your dope? Just the red tape involved in Government oversight will be a nightmare. There will be so many restrictions that it'll be easier to get your drugs the old fashioned way...from the druglords.
     
  10. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    no, i don't think they should sell it at Wal Mart or the Mafia Mart on Jackson St. But i don't think people that get caught with it should go to jail if they aren't infringing upon anyone else's rights. I have thought about that last sentence for a long time, they could also screw up potency levels.
     

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