I am seriously tired of teams claiming they have championships

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  1. NCMtns

    NCMtns Founding Member

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    Hey, at least App St got their 1AA and 2 FCS national championships in a playoff system.
     
  2. pharpe

    pharpe Founding Member

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    Is the BCS a good system? I don’t think so. Did auburn get screwed when they went undefeated in 2004 and didn’t get into the MNC game? Sure they did. Did USC have a team that could have beaten LSU on 2003? Maybe, but it didn’t happen.

    You can claim any championship you want…fine. But at the end of the day BCS is the generally accepted system for crowing the D-I college football national champion. Everyone knows this. It’s the only championship that gets discussed all season. The only time any other system for evaluating the national champion gets brought up is after the fact when someone is unhappy with the outcome. You never hear a coach during preseason say that their team goal is to win a Fanspoll.com People's National Champion title.

    I think the BCS is crap and I’ll complain about it every chance I get. But as long as it’s the generally recognized system, we have to play within it’s parameters.
     
  3. cajdav1

    cajdav1 Soldiers are real hero's

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    Have to disagree with you Caddy, at least the BCS has a championship game between numbers one and two instead of the old system where one and two hardly ever played each other in a bowl. And at least the computer portion takes some of the bias out of it. It's a lot more credible than the old non-system of picking a champion.
     
  4. LSUDeek

    LSUDeek All That She Wants...

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    OMG SRSLY? NO WAI!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111
     
  5. verouchi

    verouchi KOC-RPH

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    BOWL CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES
    Year School Selecting organization
    2007 Louisiana State BCS
    2006 Florida BCS
    2005 Texas BCS
    2004 Southern California BCS
    2003 Louisiana State BCS
    2002 Ohio State BCS
    2001 Miami (Fla.) BCS
    2000 Oklahoma BCS
    1999 Florida State BCS
    1998 Tennessee BCS

    CONSENSUS NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
    Year School Selecting organization
    1950 Oklahoma AP, UPI
    1951 Tennessee AP, UPI
    1952 Michigan St. AP, UPI
    1953 Maryland AP, UPI
    1954 UCLA, Ohio St. FWAA, UPI, AP
    1955 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, UPI
    1956 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, UPI
    1957 Ohio St., Auburn FWAA, UPI, AP
    1958 LSU, Iowa AP, UPI, FWAA
    1959 Syracuse AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
    1960 Minnesota, Mississippi AP, NFF, UPI, FWAA
    1961 Alabama, Ohio St. AP, NFF, UPI, FWAA
    1962 Southern California AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
    1963 Texas AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
    1964 Alabama, Arkansas, Notre Dame AP, UPI, FWAA, NFF
    1965 Michigan St., Alabama FWAA, NFF, UPI, AP, FWAA
    1966 Notre Dame, Michigan St. AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI, NFF
    1967 Southern California AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
    1968 Ohio St. AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
    1969 Texas AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
    1970 Nebraska, Texas, Ohio St. AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI, NFF
    1971 Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
    1972 Southern California AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
    1973 Notre Dame, Alabama AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
    1974 Southern California, Oklahoma FWAA, NFF, UPI, AP
    1975 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
    1976 Pittsburgh AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
    1977 Notre Dame AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
    1978 Alabama, Southern California AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
    1979 Alabama AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
    1980 Georgia AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
    1981 Clemson AP, FWAA, NFF, UPI
    1982 Penn St. AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
    1983 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
    1984 Brigham Young AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
    1985 Oklahoma AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
    1986 Penn St. AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
    1987 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
    1988 Notre Dame AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
    1989 Miami (Fla.) AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
    1990 Colorado, Georgia Tech FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, AP, UPI
    1991 Washington, Miami (Fla.) FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI,AP
    1992 Alabama AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
    1993 Florida St. AP, FWAA,NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
    1994 Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
    1995 Nebraska AP, FWAA, NFF, USA/CNN, UPI
    1996 Florida AP, FWAA, NFF,USA/CNN
    1997 Michigan, Nebraska AP, FWAA,NFF, USA/ESPN
    2003 Southern California AP, FWAA

    AP NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
    Year School Selecting organization
    1936 Minnesota AP
    1937 Pittsburgh AP
    1938 Texas Christian AP
    1939 Texas A&M AP
    1940 Minnesota AP
    1941 Minnesota AP
    1942 Ohio St. AP
    1943 Notre Dame AP
    1944 Army AP
    1945 Army AP
    1946 Notre Dame AP
    1947 Notre Dame AP
    1948 Michigan AP
    1949 Notre Dame AP

    RETROACTIVE POLL CHAMPIONS
    Year School Selecting organization
    1935 Minnesota CFRA, HAF, NCF
    1934 Minnesota CFRA, HAF, NCF
    1933 Michigan CFRA, HAF, NCF
    1932 Southern California CFRA, HAF, NCF
    1931 Southern California CFRA, HAF, NCF
    1930 Alabama, Notre Dame CFRA, HAF, NCF
    1929 Notre Dame CFRA, HAF, NCF
    1928 Georgia Tech. CFRA, HAF, NCF
    1927 Illinois, Yale HAF, NCF, CFRA
    1926 Alabama, Stanford CFRA, HAF, NCF, HAF
    1925 Alabama CFRA, HAF, NCF
    1924 Notre Dame CFRA, HAF, NCF
    1923 Illinois, Michigan CFRA, HAF, NCF, NCF
    1922 California, Cornell, Princeton NCF, HAF, CFRA, NCF
    1921 California, Cornell CFRA, NCF, HAF
    1920 California CFRA, HAF, NCF
    1919 Harvard, Illinois, Notre Dame, Texas A&M CFRA, HAF, NCF, CFRA, NCF, NCF
    1918 Michigan, Pittsburg NCF, HAF, NCF
    1917 Georgia Tech. HAF, NCF
    1916 Pittsburgh HAF, NCF
    1915 Cornell HAF, NCF
    1914 Army HAF, NCF
    1913 Harvard HAF, NCF
    1912 Harvard, Penn St. HAF, NCF, NCF
    1911 Penn St., Princeton NCF, HAF, NCF
    1910 Harvard, Pittsburgh HAF, NCF, NCF
    1909 Yale HAF, NCF
    1908 LSU, Pennsylvania NCF, HAF, NCF
    1907 Yale HAF, NCF
    1906 Princeton HAF, NCF
    1905 Chicago HAF, NCF
    1904 Michigan, Pennsylvania NCF, HAF, NCF
    1903 Michigan, Princeton NCF, HAF, NCF
    1902 Michigan HAF, NCF
    1901 Michigan HAF, NCF
    1900 Yale HAF, NCF
    1899 Harvard HAF, NCF
    1898 Harvard HAF, NCF
    1897 Pennsylvania HAF, NCF
    1896 Lafayette, Princeton NCF, HAF, NCF
    1895 Pennsylvania HAF, NCF
    1894 Yale HAF, NCF
    1893 Princeton HAF, NCF
    1892 Yale HAF, NCF
    1891 Yale HAF, NCF
    1890 Harvard HAF, NCF
    1889 Princeton HAF, NCF
    1888 Yale HAF, NCF
    1887 Yale HAF, NCF
    1886 Yale HAF, NCF
    1885 Princeton HAF, NCF
    1884 Yale HAF, NCF
    1883 Yale HAF, NCF
    1882 Yale NCF
    1881 Yale NCF
    1880 Princeton, Yale NCF, NCF
    1879 Princeton NCF
    1878 Princeton NCF
    1877 Yale NCF
    1876 Yale NCF
    1875 Harvard NCF
    1874 Yale NCF
    1873 Princeton NCF
    1872 Princeton NCF
    1871 None selected
    1870 Princeton NCF
    1869 Princeton NCF

    AP - Associated Press
    BCS - Bowl College Series
    CFRA - College Football Researchers Association
    FWAA - Football Writers Association of America
    HAF - Helms Athletic Foundation
    NCF - National Championship Foundation
    NFF - National Football Foundation/College Football Hall of Fame
    UPI - United Press International
    USA/CNN - USA Today/CNN
    USA/ESPN - USA Today/ESPN
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    USC was NOT a consensus national champion in 2003!

    1. Since the advent of the BCS in 1998, there is no such thing as a consensus champion. The champion is selected on the field.

    2. There was a BCS National Championship game and USC did not qualify to get into it. There was a National Champion crowned on the field and it was not USC. You can't be champion if you did not win the championship game.

    3. USC was voted #1 in two polls and rankings. LSU was voted #1 in nine!
     
  7. fanatic

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    Fixed
     
  8. LSUDeek

    LSUDeek All That She Wants...

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    That was almost 5 years ago. I know I've moved on. :thumb:
     
  9. fanatic

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    What's wrong with stating facts?
     
  10. DRC

    DRC TigerNator

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    Right or wrong...like it or not...BCS or not...2003 will always be considered a split championship by almost everyone except us.
     

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