How Roger Ailes Built the Fox News Fear Factory

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  1. Rwilliams

    Rwilliams Veteran Member

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    The Nazi party were the national socialist party in Germany. Conservatives in America are anti socialist. It sucks that the Nazis are noted as right wing.
     
  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    but we are Americans we can do anything. Are you trying to say that we can't do anything here? Are you questioning American exceptionalism?
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The Nazi party was as right-wing as they come. "Socialist" in their name was as honest as "Democratic" in North Korea's official name. The blood enemies of the Nazi party were the Soviets, another party with Socialist in its name, this time it stood for an extreme left Communist party.

    The Western allies were moderates who only allied with the USSR to defeat Nazi Germany and then the Soviets became our biggest enemy. The United States is essentially a moderate country, now polarized between political parties that have gotten too extreme to the right and to the left.
     
  4. Rwilliams

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    What you replied had nothing to do with what I said at all. The Nazi party in Germany were the national socialist party. I said that it sucks that they're known as right wing when they called themselves socialist. Conservatives in America are not socialist. Conservatives are anti socialist. The Nazi government was all powerful. Conservatives want less power centralized in national government. What does any of that have to do with American exceptionalism?:confused:
     
  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    You are saying we can't knock socialism out of the park. If we are Americans, and we can do anything, couldn't we make socialism work? Maybe I just believe in American's abilities too much. I mean we are a socialism/capitalist hybrid anyway.....
     
  6. Rwilliams

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    That's why were 14 TRILLION in debt. Too much socialism and not enough capitialism.
     
  7. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Completely disagree, but to each his own.
     
  8. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    So do you feel the government knows better how to use your money?

    Do you trust the government to find new energy?

    Run the economy?

    Provide you with health care?

    The real problem is really has nothing to do with any of these issues, it has more to do that the government is not held to a standard at which the private sector is.

    If you or I go into a large amount of debt, how do you get out of it? Cut spending….It is all we can do….

    Though the government thinks it can just maintain and print new money…..Why the different standards? Why is private sector forced into bankruptcy but the government isn’t?

    Raising the debt limit is the same you or I not being able to pay our debts, though when that happens to us, we are forced to:
    A) Sell our possessions to pay the debt off ( smaller home, cars, or other possessions of the type)
    B) Bankruptcy
    Though, I guess a lucky few have family help them out….Just depends..

    In the simplest terms that I can think of, it would be the same as having a credit card with a limit of 10k and it is maxed out and actually getting a limit increase with zero sign of ability to pay it down…..No company would give you or I an increase with such a scenario.

    In a Socialist party, we loss power. You or I will not have a say and all decisions will be made “in our best interest”.

    Is that what you want?
     
  9. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    People always bring up scenarios such as medical issues, poverty and things of this sort as to why we need government run programs.

    As a nation, it is up to us to fund this through way of fundraising, private organizations and volunteering. Its sucks to say, but we are not entitled to chit because of birth with the exception of the freedom to choose what and who we want to become.

    A dependency on free government assistance is the main reason we are in this chit along with foreign aids to people that hate us…

    The private sector is MORE than capable of funding such welfare operations….
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Examples?
     

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