How is this not unconstitutional!!!!

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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i understand that, but why is that a problem for anyone?
     
  2. shaqazoolu

    shaqazoolu Concentrated Awesome

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    This is a shot in the dark, but probably because it doesn't make any sense.
     
  3. martin

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    but there are six seats up for election. so you need to elect 6 dudes. so you get six votes. but if you dont care about 5 of them, as long as your favorite guy gets at least one seat, you cast all 6 votes for him. what is wrong with this?
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Nuthin'
     
  5. Bud Lee

    Bud Lee Call me buttercup

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    Because it is suppose "one man, one vote"

    FWIW. I also don't like gerrymandering.

    In my opinion, stacking the deck to ensure that a particular skin color gets elected is bullsh*t. Each person should get “1” vote. Lines should be drawn along parish, or natural, boarders. If the end result is that only whites/blacks/latino/purple peeps elected to sit as public officials, then so be it.
     
  6. martin

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    they mean "one man one vote" relative to everyone else. 6/6 = 1, if everyone has it.

    if i have 6 votes and you have 6 votes, we have a 1/1 ratio of votes relative to each other. we are both just as important. thats the point.

    what you are doing is like complaining that instead of 1 dollar you have 100 cents. 100 is not more than 1 in that case.

    think of it like in this case each person has a 1 vote, divided into 6ths.
     
  7. Bud Lee

    Bud Lee Call me buttercup

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    Dude…IT IS THEIR INTENT, that I have a problem with.


    Here...I'll repeat myself.

    In my opinion, stacking the deck to ensure that a particular skin color gets elected is bullsh*t. Each person should get “1” vote. Lines should be drawn along parish, or natural, boarders. If the end result is that only whites/blacks/latino/purple peeps elected to sit as public officials, then so be it.
     
  8. martin

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    i agree with you on the intent, but just having 6 votes isnt that crazy.

    in college i was taught "procedural reform is never neutral", meaning that when changes like this are made, it is never without the intent to tilt the scales for somebody. in this case i guess it is the latinos. i dont understand why the system helps latinos, even though i know that is what it is designed to do. everyone gets the same amount of votes, even whites.

    how does it help one group if all groups have the same votes? because all the latins will casst their whole 6 for one dude? so what, that leaves 5 seats open for honkeys.
     
  9. Bud Lee

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    There be some complicated mathematics in play, a lot of carrying over and power to the quantum 3’s and what not. But it gives them the edge, hence why they did it.
     
  10. martin

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    yes, i agree, they definitely did it with the intent to increase representation for latinos, i just dont understand how, when white folks get 6 votes too.

    if they are doing it do that things work out like proportional representation, such that if a certain party gets 40% of the vote, they would have 40% of the representatives, instead of losing every single race 60 to 40 (for zero wins overall), thats fine. but of course that would be about party and this is about race.

    i might agree, but i am not convinced by the simple "one man one vote" argument.
     

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