How did this baseball program fall this quickly?

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  1. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    That could work in different ways. A team could win the regular season because they were great most of the season and tailed off toward the end. Florida got swept by Mississippi State in their last regular season series but had already clinched the top seed for the tourney. Does Ole Miss winning the tourney but not the regular season mean they are not as good as Florida? If a team gets hot late in the season they are playing their best at the right time when it means the most. LSU after the Rally Possum game. Oregon State only lost 4 games last year before the CWS but LSU beat them twice.

    CPM's teams with few exceptions have never looked very impressive at the beginning of a season but they are always playing their best ball at the end. Players who we thought were a waste of a scholarship start living up to their potential. Cabrera, then Sanders in the SEC and even Taaaahd Peterson who had never showed me he was worth a damn suddenly found his niche when he assumed the closer role.

    Skip never placed a lot of weight on the conference tournament. CMP does but both did it the way they thought best. Would the Tigers have been better off mailing it in after winning 2 games and assuring they would get off the bubble? Would have rested the pitchers but after the way they put it together with Johnny Wholestaff after Hess and Hilliard the team has to be brimming with confidence going to Corvallis.

    Skews way more than others. Is a team that wins 20 games in the Big 10 better than a team that goes 15-15 in the SEC? LSU had an RPI of 34. Kentucky had an RPI of 30 but were left out, probably because of their 13-17 conference record. But the teams that beat them were SEC teams. 10 teams in the field and half of the national seeds with 4.

    Sorry to burst your bubble.
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  2. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    I meant here, wtf did you link me to? I’m not trying to say the thing I banged out on my iPhone while my kid was doing laps is anything fancy, but it’s something.

    If I were to weigh conference accomplishments, I’d weigh them very little because there is too much inconsistency. Regular season means more to me, nobody is bagging games during the regular season unless they already have it locked down. And SEC results mean more than A10 results.

    I’m going to stop ragging on Maineri as much, he’s doing a good/great job in a sport I’m pretty meh on. Not generational like Skip or Saban, but apparently top 5 worthy.
     
  3. LSUpride123

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    What facts? I literally spelled it out for you AND I said Sullivan is doing slightly better.
     
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    stevescookin Certified Who Dat

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    I guess I was never in that winning is everything camp. I love LSU anyway. I learned that from my father.
     
  5. CajunlostinCali

    CajunlostinCali Booger Eatin Moron

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    Significantly better in the pen than CPM. We don't get Nola's and Lange's off the trees like Florida does and even the talent we bring in seems to not be able to develope into potential.

    Not paying Andy the farm to stay was a blow IMO. He goes on to fuck his way out of a HC job, so we can have him back on the cheap, but that will never happen because he poached a recruit on the way out. Bridge is burned but none of that happens if we had paid him to stay to begin with.

    So it's not talent nor is it CPM's coaching ability, it is the assistant's he keeps that bear the responsibility to develop players and hopefully, keep the injuries down. Paul has that one flaw, sustaining world beaters at the assistant's level. That is the hardest revolving door to keep a foot in. Not entirely his fault, but he has a play in that role.

    Next year should really tell us more about this debate, but you will almost never defeat the question, who out there is better? Hardly anyone.
     
  6. LSUpride123

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    You cant be serious...


    And that is the point. No one is claiming CPM to be the best coach, but he is certainly top 5 in the country and top 1-3 in the SEC depending on the year. You simply dont fire a coach like that. Ever.
     
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  7. CajunlostinCali

    CajunlostinCali Booger Eatin Moron

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    Compared to Floridas pen damn near year in and year out, dead serious.
     
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    Maybe you should go look at the stats then. This has been the only bad year.
     
  9. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    What’d you spell? Past 5 years, neck and neck, past 10 years it’s not close.
     
  10. lsu-i-like

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    I’m now in agreement with that.
     

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