You don't remember all the things that had to happen? I honestly don't remember them all either but leading up to the SECCG was what I was refering to and most LSU fans recognized how lucky we were after dropping one to Florida. I can remember staying up real late to watch Hawaii, needing a BS win. I don't remember all the other things right off but there were several so it's not a suggestion just cause we choose to only look at the last game of the season. Oh, and don't you mean "Ours" instead of "Theirs"? :wink:
I remember that too...but WE didn't back in. OU did. They LOST their CCG 35-7 against KState...then the next game they were in was the friggin' BCSNCG. We won our CCG 34-13, and EARNED our way into it...bottom line. USC had one loss, we had one loss, and OU had one loss. They say it helps to lose EARLY if you're gonna lose. We did, USC did, and OU lost the last friggin' game of the year by a blowout...yet managed to squirm their way into the NCG. That's the epitome of backing in.
Right and if Hawaii wins their LAST game of their season, we're out and USC is in. I guess we'll have to agree to not agree on this one but to me, when you have to rely on help from others and your destiny depends on what others do, it's not "Earning" but, like I said, doesn't mean we didn't "Deserve". That's the difference to me. For example, should we win the conference championship game tommorow, it's still possible to get in. Would you say we earned our way in or because it takes a Pitt, Ok, and VT victory that we didn't "Back" in. "Slide" in may be a better choice of words.
FWIW, if we win tomorrow and somehow things fall into place for us, I will say we BACKED in. We lost our last regular season game. In 2003, we CHARGED in. I do like the term "slide" better than "backed", but not for 2003. If we "backed" into the 2003 Championship, then whoever plays in the BCSNCG this year will have backed in. Everybody has one or more losses...save for Hawaii, but don't go there please...( I mean, you can feel free to GO TO Hawaii...I hear it's nice this time of year. But don't suggest that they should get a shot at the title):thumb: Just thought of this. If Hawaii had won that game, and USC goes...did they back in? That would mean whoever was in the game that year backed in...and I disagree with that. I think the team that was blown out in their CCG is the one that backed in. I firmly believe, and have for 4 years now...that the title game should've been LSU (US) and USC (THEM). Regarding the difference between "earned" and "deserved"...to me, you only deserve what you have earned. (Deep, ain't it :shock: )
The SEC championship has hurt us in getting a 2nd BCS team insome years. Look at UT in '01. Went into the game, needing only to win to go to MNC game. After losing, they didn't even get to go to a BCS game. UGA in '03 would have gotten an invite to a BCS game without the SEC CG. For the SEC to get 2 in oneyear, they need a situation where 3 teams are deserving (which has happened more than once), because the loser of SEC CG has never gone to a BCS bowl.
Not a problem (about the picking), I'm a big boy, I can take it. Heres my argument. *The SEC has a lot more schools in conference and anyone can best anyone. *Try this, take any one of those teams and let them play the schedule "we've" had to go through this year and see how they fare come the end of the season. I think you'll have your answer.
What irks me is that the Big 10 won't even force it's teams to play every other team in the damn conference. At least give the Pac-10 credit for doing that. So now Ohio State and Michigan play each other and that's great, but maybe Michigan doesn't have to play a 10-2 Illinois or Ohio State playing a 10-2 Wisconsin (just giving examples). That's BS. The conference will be BS until they do something about it. Phuck the 4.8 40 Big 10. Okay?
I was just telling DOTB that earlier. If tOSU plays anyone with speed even comparable to what the SEC has, they lose. You know how you hear that coaches got left behind by the game. Well the Big 10 is the conference that has fallen behind the times.
The Big Ten plays eight conference games with 11 teams. The SEC, ACC, and Big 12 play eight with 12 teams. Everybody but the PAC 10 and Big East rotates. So Fl beat tOSU.... if team speed is such a "differential", how come the Big Ten shows up just fine when we play the SEC in bowl games or OOC games in this new century? Hasn't the Big Ten won two out of our three match ups each of the last two years?? Was that a team speed thingy? It's not the SEC that has had the Big Ten's number the past seven years, it's the PAC. So, if team speed is a biggie, the PAC must have more than the SEC... at least using your logic. These arguments just get sillier and sillier, don't they??
