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Just repeating yourself.

 

What would make me believe you know shit about SPEC OPS yourself? You can either make a point or you can't. No biggie if you can't.

 

So has the threat. How many times must I remind you of this?

It is not a fact unless you can prove it. And you have consistently failed to provide any evidence of this. The generals did not say that. No expert has. You just keep repeating it and that doesn't count for a damn thing. Come back when you have some evidence.

 

I've posted studies. Nothing you refuted. In fact, you said we have "increased" our strength, but provided no real evidence.

I don't understand why you or NC even debate. People post links, facts or whatever and you two ignore most of it.

You out of glue already today?

 

Simple. Spec ops don't hold ground for the army to come take over. That isn't their mission.

 

No I said the administrations past failures, some details are below, leave us with little we can do. Reading comprehension can be your friend - try it sometimes.

None are our friends? Then why did Obama try to institute a plan to train and arm 15,000 rebels - of which only 5 (I'll spell it for you "FIVE") made it to the battle field. That's embarrassing. That's a monumental failing, hardly the only one Obama has made in Syria. But you believe we are "depleting our enemies" - your words- with 5 people.
I'd be interested in seeing a timeline to show me when they will be depleted? Iran certainly won't be - we gave them the money to keep this war going. That was another brilliant move by the same geniuses that created our 'Syrian plan'.

Really, so when the LA Times (hardly Fox News) runs an article saying "Russian warplanes hit Pentagon-backed Syrian fighters with a barrage of airstrikes earlier this week, disregarding several warnings from U.S. commanders in what American military officials called the most provocative act since Moscow’s air campaign in Syria began last year." it was a mistake of reporting.

And you may find the next paragraph interesting; "The strikes hit a base near the Jordanian border, far from areas where the Russians were previously active, and targeted U.S.-backed forces battling the Islamic State militants."
See that's what I meant by Russia muscled its way in and bombed those we failed to support. Again I was right and you were ignorant of the facts.

We aren't taking casualties because we aren't doing dick. We abdicated our leadership role to Putin who doesn't care who he kills and how he kills them to keep their puppet in power. So we aren't paying today, BUT our friends are; and it will cost us in the future. The 350,000 syrian refugees are leading to economic and political stability problems in Europe. Immigration policy was a key component of Brexit. So our friends are hurting and our policy failures greatly contributed to the hopelessness that drives people to become refugees.

Actually, he sounds perfect for you.

 

When did I say that? I didn't. I said we had SPEC ops on the ground within 10 days and they were followed by light troops and eventually by heavy troops. And that is exactly how it happened. CIA and SPEC-Ops were there working up local assets and intelligence and targeting for airpower, not "holding ground". But they were there and it did not take long to get them there. That was MY point.

 

BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS!!!!! They don't want to work with us, they just want us to arm them. Which we do when they are fighting ISIS. Not because we give a shit about Syria's Civil War, which we do not and should not.

Did they say that Kurds or Iraqis were hit? No. Those are our only allies over there. "Pentagon-backed Syrian fighters" are parties in the Syrian Civil War. We only back the ones that are fighting ISIS, not fighting Assad or Russians or any of the 1,000 groups fighting over there. Speaking of reading comprehension, you still seem to confuse the War on ISIS with the Syrian Civil War.

We "fail to support" these Syrian factions because they're not our allies or our friends. We arm them only to keep them fighting ISIS and secondarily to fight each other to hamper Russia and Assad's plans to hang onto power. You want us to invade an occupy Syria? Spell it out. What the fuck do you want us to do? We are playing this one very smart, you are just too ignorant to realize it.

We aren't doing dick because the Syrian Civil War is not our fight. We are doing plenty of "dick" against ISIS, but you still can't see that there are several wars going on over there, most of which we have no strategic interest in getting involved in.

 

Yes and no. CIA, DEVGRU, and Delta were in Afghanistan since 1985 developing assets and gathering human intel. Mobile SAM's and EWR sites with satellite or fly over technology have to be identified before any air campaign.

However, we don't get Spec Ops on the ground in time rush. They are already there in any potentially hostile regions that have military capability. ST6 and Delta are always operating around the world at any given time.

 

So now there are two people in the world who think our Syrian policy is very smart, you and Obama. Just about everyone other thinking person, including former administration cabinet officers, say we screwed up. They only disagree on how much of a disaster on policy has been. Obama made serious statements and commitments and then changed his mind - several times. The leader of the free world should know better. It tells people like Putin he can do what he wants like annexing territory and China they can 'create islands' without worry. The only people big enough to do anything about it won't. Just because a cop doesn't respond to the call he's still the cop. He's just a cop who decided to be a cop in a donut shop - or golf course.

You keep talking about how smart we are to let people in Syria kill each other like it happens in isolation. Lots of Syrians refuse to follow your wishes and kill each other in Syria, they actually leave. How rude; don't they know their place? Even if you don't care about the people you better care about the region. Because Turkey is a very important ally in a critical location and its being stressed. And so are our important European friends. The refugees have flooded Turkey and Europe and it won't get better any time soon. The leadership vacuum we left was filled by Russia who sneaked in and bombed the forces we were backing instead of Isis like they said they would. This is increasing the refugees into our friends Turkey and Europe. They are our friends and our lack of coherent policy and Obama's inability to make a timely decision has fucked them.

You and Obama thought Russia's intervention would show that we were smarter. But alas, Russia and Iran have delivered for Assad. Russia did the 'bombing surge' which was effective enough that they started winding down their forces in May. Oh, and it brought Russia and Turkey military in closer conflict - not good. Oops, we guessed wrong again.

I don't think we should have done Iraq again, that was monumentally stupid the first time. And at this point we really have nothing to offer but words. But there were opportunities in 2011, 2012, and even 2013 when we could have bent the curve. If we had moved then, Europe would be in better shape, Turkey would be in better shape, and maybe we would have learned enough not to think Isis was the 'JV'. But I'm sure you and Obama think we've done the Isis policy right also.

It's unbelievable that anyone would defend this pile of shit, let alone call it very smart. Which is why being called ignorant by you is a compliment.