TF - are you really that myopic? No one has said that Lee's numbers vs Bama were good. What people are saying "Guilbeau included" is that; WHAT YOU WERE DOING WAS NOT WORKING - the only proof you needed was 5 FIRST DOWNS FOR THE ENTIRE GAME!!! So if what you are doing is not working, then try something else because it could not get worse. When I mean "worse" I don't mean the score could not get worse it could have. But the point of worse is "a loss is a loss no matter how you slice it." Getting shut out is getting shut out, no matter if it is 21-0 or 42-0 either way you are shut out. B. Hebert pointed that out, so what if he threw pick 6's at least you tried to mix it up because if you continued with the game plan as it was you were destine to lose which we did. I tried to give an analogy in another post. If you are going to a gun fight and you have 2 bullets in your gun and you decide not to use your last bullet because you are afraid the bullet might misfire and blow you up, and you miss the target with the first bullet so you don't fire the second bullet for fear it will not work and then you are shot dead. What good was it not to use your last bullet either way you are dead. Dead is dead no matter if it is from your bullet of the other guys bullet. What most of the Tiger Nation and the nation in general are saying is "Miles what you were doing didn't work for the entire game and everyone in the world - including your own players - could see it was not working, you had other options so why did you not try them because this was a winner take all game there were no second chances like Bama had, you needed to play the game like Bama did knowing there were no 2nd chances so try anything and everything until something worked or you were out of options. Miles had options and instead decided he was going to do it his way no matter what the outcome. Which cost us the opportunity to find out if something else would have worked. That is what people are trying to help enlighten you with that thought. It could not have gotten any worse in the win/loss column with trying to see what Lee could do so as we had all season "and by the way Lee earned a chance" we should have tried to see if what Lee had to offer might have worked better than what we were doing !!!!!! And if it didn't than no harm because we were losing anyway so it could not have gotten any worse. We could not have lost twice, we could only have lost once!!!
Now we know the beatdown that Alabama fans gave Saban after the Nov 5th game. This led to the changed game plan for the NCG. My concern, after watching CLM for the past 7 years, is that Miles won't see that he has to make changes. I know that LSU will always rely on the run game and that we will have better pass play from our quarterbacks next year, but will we use the opportunity to run a more balanced offense? This past game puts that into doubt. There was no "we" in the decision making not to use Lee. We know other coaches wanted to use him, but "the decider" was CLM. Maybe the new year may bring a greater reliance on the OC('s), maybe it won't, or maybe it won't in the BIG games. It's this unknown that is worrisome. Also, that it happened in the last game of the year, giving Tiger Nation such a long time to concern itself with the problem. Better decision-making is the only solution. I'm concerned that this will pop up again when we play the Big boys next year. Resolution can turn into pigheadedness (is this even a word), when we don't adapt to adversity. We cannot always rely on athletic prowess, when we play a team close to our quality and they are on their game. I, truly, hope this was a learning experience for our head coach.
IDENTITY. With Lee, LSU's offense had one. It may not have been flash, but at least it was effective. With JJ, LSU's offense had one. It was the option and the screen. It was not effective.
our play calling and game plan sucked, and that's been the case all season -- our offense is #86 in the NCAA in ypg (Bama is #31), and our passing offense is #106 in the NCAA in ypg. Our poor offense this season was masked by our stellar special teams play (which wasn't so great Monday: we allowed 5 total punt return yards against us in the 1st 13 games, and then let Bama get 67 total punt return yards against us Monday, including Maze's return for 49) and our outstanding turnover defense, which didn't get a turnover Monday, the first time in 21 games that we didn't force at least 1 turnover (we forced 3 turnovers each of our last 3 games before Monday and 2 against Bama earlier this season, and 4 vs both Oregon and W. Virginia). Our D has forced at least one turnover each of the last 49 games except 6, and guess what happened all 6 of those games: bitter disappointment (0-21 loss to Bama, embarrassing 16-14 W vs Tennessee last year, 17-19 L to Penn State in 2009, 23-25 L to Ole Miss in 2009, 24-16 W vs La Tech in 2009, 38-52 L to Georgia in 2008) again, our offense sucked all season, and that's been the case for 4 years now...the whole JJ/Lee era. Was it Crowton that ruined them? if so the good news is Crowton hasn't touched Mett. do our offensive coaches just suck? if so we need change, and our passing game coordinator Gonzales is now gone, so that is good to hear
I am saying that the JL vs Bama stats are misleading. I also made an analogy in another thread and i will do it again. I am not a football coach. I am, however, a business owner and a former U.S. Marine. I said yesterday, "if you send a man through a door and he gets shot and then another and another, when does someone say hold on a second, lets try something different." There are 2 ways to take this statement. One way is that a good leader would recalibrate and rethink his attack. The other way would be to keep sending men to die in hopes the enemy will run out of bullets. I'm not saying that these same men wouldn't die anyways in the end. We would have probably all died, or in this case, lost the game. I'm saying that when you trust a leader or a coach then you have faith that he/she will put you in the best position to overcome the enemy and will exhaust all possibilities in the process. I didn't feel that happened. I feel like even though we knew they had enough bullets to kill us all that we didn't do what w are supposed to do, which is find a way to win. To me, CLM's statements and attitude before during and after the game all say the same thing, he didn't think we could win. That is what i got from all this. His actions point to them being better no matter what we did. From the standpoint of someone who will run through that door for you, this is very disappointing. He appeared to be defeated during the national anthem. I expect more. We had a great season and i couldn't have thought of anything that could ruin it, well except exactly what happened. All just my opinions.
False. our O had three 400-plus games in the last 6 games (458, 474, 484) but only one in 1st 8 games (453)...the only time our O failed to reach 400-plus in last 6 games was vs three elite defenses (Bama's #1 D and Georgia's #5 D)
I stand corrected. The offense did not suck the whole season as you posted earlier. Offense was also productive towards the end of the season, but seeminigly started to have uncharacteristic slow starts in both the Ark and SEC Champiosnhip games, worse for the first half of the SEC Champ game.
But we were 13-0 Special teams gave us great field position, that's why the total yds are low Am I missing anything?
It doesn't mean our offense sucked and it isn't all about yards. Our D and special teams were outstanding and we had the short field alot. That streak of games you speak of included teams with NO offense that had no chance against us. Trust me, I'm not saying that we were the best offense in the land by any means. But for most of the year our offense did good things and what's most frustrating is that we seemed to be blossoming as far as the passing game and getting people on the perimeter involved. We weren't one dimensional. This is when Lee was the QB I might add.
