Greatest baseball player of all time?

Mariano was great at what he did but I can't see putting him in the discussion because he only had to do it 1 inning a game, sometimes he didn't even have to. To me Greg Maddux is so much better than him. Maddux didn't have a heater, but he had movement on his fastball, he had a curve and slider, and his placement was better than any other pitcher I've ever seen. Here is my all world team.

I'll go with a 5 man rotation, 5 relievers and then 1 at every position and a DH.

Starting Pitchers:
Nolan Ryan
Pedro Martinez
Greg Maddux
Sandy Koufax
Cy Young

Relief Pitchers:
Mariano Rivera
Dennis Eckersly
Goose Gossage
Trevor Hoffman
Lee Smith

1st Base:
Lou Gherig

2nd Base:
Ryne Sandberg

3rd Base:
Cal Ripken Jr (sorry Cal I did ya like the O's did and moved you to 3rd in 96)

SS:
Ozzie Smith

Catcher:
Johnny Bench

Outfielders:
Ken Griffey Jr
Willie Mays
Barry Bonds

DH
David Ortiz (love the guy, probably more that deserve it but I'd take Big Papi, Reggie Jackson or Babe would be more deserving but fuck them and their pinstripes)

 

That is pretty insane right there, those dudes aren't just some scrub you run out on the bump.

 

Maddux made his living off of 2 pitches, a fastball that had the precision of a surgeon and a damn fine change up. Its really the only two pitches you need if you can locate and you are right, GM never had heat, I'd say probably mid to high 80's perhaps a 92 if he reached down and brought everything he had.

 

Have to put Bob Gibson in the starting pitchers.1968 ERA 1.12 28 complete games 13 shutouts over 300 innings pitched.

 

On your list. Take some time Winston and make one.

 

Read the whole thread LaSalle. I made mine pages ago.

 

Oh damn my bad

 

No problem friend.

 

And he owns the award for at least honorable mention for greatest baseball story ever for the thing with him and Mark Grace when they were both with the cubs. That is a classic.