Great foreign policy Mr. President

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  1. Rwilliams

    Rwilliams Veteran Member

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    Way to throw our Egyptian ally under the bus and support a Muslim brotherhood backed government. The world just got a little more dangerous. We have the middle east country with the largest Muslim population now ran by extremist. We have them provoking a nuclear armed ally. We had a peaceful government in Egypt that cooperated with the israeli efforts to keep weapons out of palatine. Look what we have now. Great floppin job. Mrs. Clinton hasn't actually done much better but how much of her input was taken into account in obama's decision to aid in the overthrow of an ally. What a great job.

    The Associated Press: Egyptians tear down Israel Embassy's security wall

    red to kick my asz in 3,2,1.....
     
  2. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    Our foreign policy has been a disaster long before Obama
     
  3. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    How is this Obama's fault?
     
  4. Rwilliams

    Rwilliams Veteran Member

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    Didn't he call for Mubarak to step down? Didn't he say the Muslim brotherhood wasn't a threat to united states intrest in the middle east. Wasn't he giving open support for the same people starting chit with Israel?
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Perhaps you are too young to remember The Shah of Iran in 1979. He was another dictator that was a US ally. But he finally got ousted by his own people as often happens, but we supported the loser and have had bad relations with Iran ever since.

    Herein lies the lesson, Grasshoppa: The United States makes alliances with nations, not personalities, certainly not with self-appointed strongmen. We needed Egypt to switch from the Russians side to ours in the Cold War and we did it by befriending Egypt and whatever ruler it chose for itself. We still need Egypt to be friendly, so we must now befriend the new government of Egypt, hopefully soon a democracy, but not necessarily. Always go with the winner.

    This was mob violence, not action by the Egyptian government. Israel irresponsibly killed five Egyptian policemen inside Egypt recently. Incidentally the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamic groups have distanced itself from these demonstrations. They are trying to be a legitimate party in the new Egyptian government and violence is not on their agenda.
     
  6. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    It's on his watch (quoted from numerous Bush era Red55 posts).
     
  7. GiantDuckFan

    GiantDuckFan be excellent to each other Staff Member

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    What Red said, and think again about Iran. We propped the Shaw up as long as we possibly could. The result was the Iranian people increasingly resented the US role, and after, an anti-American government was installed.

    Compare that to the revolution in the Philippines under Marcos. The US allowed the will of the Filipino people to rule, and the result was, a very pro-US government was installed.

    Mubarek's days in power, were numbered long ago, the Egyptian people hate him.
    The only result possible was that Mubarek would eventually be deposed. With, I think the only possible result being, the installation of an Islamic government. The only question now is how anti/pro US will the Islamic government be.
     
  8. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    So you think people in Egypt were waiting for Obama's approval before ousting Mubarak?
     

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