Gotta feel for Miles...

Probably so. I read somewhere on the rules for being an LSU fan was that he can't do anything right

 

Correct, and the only reason that perception even exists is because LSU fans are the catalyst to the negativity surrounding the program. If we would be more supportive and vocal about how great the Tigers are the perception would be what it should be. That LSU is one of the perennial power houses in the SEC that has been, reloading not rebuilding. The reload has happened, as evident at almost every position on the field, with the exception of the QB. The best news is that most of the talent on this team is young and will be a dominant force for the next several yrs. Bank on it. :thumb:

 

averaging 10 wins a season is awesome. How many SEC games is winning a season on average? 35-14 overall SEC record. Not too shabby either, it's really just 08 that was terrible in the SEC.

 

Wrong! Actually, when Richt got called for an unsportsmanlike penalty where his whole team celebrated after the first touchdown was the last game where Georgia beat Florida in 2007, and Richt got nothing but great publicity out of that stunt because it was perceived as sparking his team to victory.

Now that was a black mark on his program. Nevertheless, Richt built Georgia’s program up from when it was down through several coaches. Hence, he is seen as a savior by many long time Georgia fans, whereas Miles got lucky and walked into an elite program that was built by his predecessor and he was unable to maintain that same elite status. Moreover, Richt won over 10 games in 2008, while Miles won only 8 games in 2008 and only 9 last year, while Richt only won 8 last year. Hence, the downturn in the LSU program has existed for one year longer than Richt’s downturn.

To me a coach that takes a program that had been down and builds it up to elite status the way Richt did is a better coach than a coach that walks into an elite program out of shear luck and then lets that program taper off. Richt has proven that he can coach and build up a down program to elite status from scratch. With Miles, on the other hand, right or wrong the jury is still out because many people perceive his success to be largely due to the success of his predecessor.

 

It's amazing to me that LSU fans bend over backwards to defend Richt while an undefeated Miles gets vilified. I'll never understand people.

 

First off there is no reason to be bring Richt into the discussion. He is the UGA coach. That said, he doesnt deserve a pass, his time has run out there. He should be let go.

I like how Miles does a great job of keeping things running smoothly at LSU. He does a good job of trying to bring in the best players and people. He tries to make sure kids are qualifiied. If they are trouble, he lets them go. Cutting Perrilloux was certainly a back breaker but I bak him in that decision.

As a coach there is no doubt there is a disturbing trend. Its easy to blame it all on JJ or Lee. Sure QB is the most important position on the field but still. LSU has faultered bad towards the end of each of the last two seasons. No one can deny that. The previous few years does have fans, me included spoiled. However, I dont expect to win the SEC or BCS every year. I know thats not possible. I dont expect a BCS bid every year. I know there are ups and downs. Despite all that Im not liking what I see from LSU these last three years.

Its great we do see a better team from last year. Fact is though the O will kill us once we actually play a good team. With the play calling no way does a run only team beat top SEC teams. Especially once attrition starts to get to LSU. I can accept a loss if we lose to a better team. But the way LSU is playing, we arent playing our best ball. Thats whats unaccpetable. The last great performance from a LSU team in all facets was the Auburn game. The only great game last year. This year weve have great field position but often settle for a FG. Which its points but god damn you have to convert sometimes.

Same as the last two years as the season wears on instead of progressing as a whole, LSU regresses. Example the penalties of the W Va game. The dropped passes. Sure a lot is on the players and it should. But the problem is nothing seems to be done about. Miles himself doenst seem to have the best focus, so the team reflects that. I like him a lot as a person. He isnt a bad coach by any means. I dont think he is great either. I just think its one of those things that sometimes goes stale a bit quicker than expected.

People can say what they want but we all know its true. Satan coming to Bama and being more successful than LSU is a huge factor here. Is it fair, who knows but its a fact. No excuse for 8-8 the previous two years. LSU has championship talent. I know the posters with purple and gold glasses talk about some of the darker LSU years which I was a fan through it all as well. Those teams DIDNT have THIS much talent either. Big difference. DiNardo did start to bring about a change by keeping the instate talent here. Which got things rolling for Satan and eventually Miles.

Im not gonna say he should be gone but the team we have out there wont beat Bama or UF who is coming around. I cant see us keeping up with Arkansas. Probably not even Auburn. Those games or seals Miles fate for me. I like him a lot as a person, Id love to see him stay here. I just dont have faith in him anymore.

 

Fans don’t look at average; instead they look at overall record and coaching performance. Richt built Georgia’s program up to elite status from when it had been down through several coaching staffs, whereas Miles got lucky and was handed an elite program built up by his predecessor. Hence, Richt has far more coaching credibility because he has proven that he can take a program from when it was down and build it up to elite status. While Miles, on the other hand, has let the elite program that he lucked into taper off.

Hence, you can cite a 10 win average all you want, but most LSU fans right or wrong attribute much of Miles success to his predecessor, who did built up a down program into elite status the same way Richt did at Georgia. Moreover, had it not been for Mile’s predecessor’s success, there never would have been a MNC in 2007.

You can say what you want, but Miles does not get full credit for his first three years at LSU, since much of that success was due to his predecessor’s success. Now whatever happens after 2007, when with few exceptions most of his predecessor’s players were graduated, that is when Miles began accumulating full credit, and since 2008 Miles has not averaged 10 wins per season because he hasn’t won 10 games in a season yet.

Let’s say Miles and Richt both get fired this year and you are an Athletic Director who gets to choose between Les Miles and Mark Richt to become your next head football coach. Do you choose Les Miles or Mark Richt? To me it’s academic; I would choose Mark Richt because he is by far the more proven coach.

 

Each one of LSU’s victories this year has felt more like a loss than a victory. Furthermore, most fans don’t believe that LSU has a chance against Florida, Auburn, Alabama, and Arkansas unless something miraculous happens with the offense. Further, Richt’s first down year was last year, while Miles has been down the past two years and it is looking like this will be another down year. Finally, Richt built up Georgia’s program to elite status from when it was down, while Miles was handed an elite program on a silver platter. Hence, it should be obvious why Miles’ hot seat is hotter than Richt’s hot seat.

 

I'm sorry dude, but that has to be the dumbest thing i have ever read. I think my IQ just dropped a few points because i read it. I didn't read anything further. I'm not trying to attack you or anything but ..... Come on Mane!!