Gore: Polar ice may vanish in 5-7 years

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  1. ok awesome

    ok awesome geaux

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    Here's a good article on Global Warming

    Global Warming as Groupthink - WSJ.com

    It makes some good points. It's really just about a fact that man made global warming is real. The real question is are the effects of it really going to be as catastrophic as some people are claiming or not. The answer is probably no. But it is something that needs to be curtailed, and it can be curtailed over time, we don't have to just cut it all out at once or be screwed forever like most of the GW extremists want you to believe, and we're not going to be peachy regardless, like the anti-GW extremists want you to believe.
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Well, because life did not exist during most of the time that it was too hot for icecaps. Are you picking up on anything here?
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    What makes them not relevant? I can favor what I wish to. I don't care if you disagree.

    It's a direct correlation that any fool can follow. All of the catastrophes you predict for carbon caps were also predicted for sulphur caps, but it didn't turn out that way. Sulphur caps worked to rid us of acid rain. Carbon caps will work to reduce our CO2 emissions.

    That is a ridiculous metaphor filled with logical fallacies. Sulphur caps are working right now!

    Then make your case . . .

    I won't hold my breath.
     
  4. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Yeah. 15 million years from now I'll have to get a bigger boat.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Nootch will have to move within 15 years.

    The rate of warming is the anomaly here, you know. It doesn't have to be a million more years. 20 to 30 years is the prediction for the icecap to be gone. Fools will ignore it. Suit yourself.
     
  6. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    That's not water rising. That's coastline receding. Nothing new here.
     
  7. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i have explained this before. listen this time.

    if you favor a voluntary policy, you are no longer discussing a political issue, just your personal whims.

    like if i say, "everyone should quit smoking." i believe this to be true. i genuinely believe everyone should quit. and it would solve lots of problems and save us money for health care and all kinds of benefits. but i am not saying i favor policy to enforce my whims, so nobody should give a damn. i might as well tell you my favorite color. nobody cares.

    so when you say "i favor more effecient energy", thats nice, but you are no longer talking about the issue. tell me what the science indicates as far as policy that should be enacted, or we have nothnig to discuss.

    ok, good, lets discuss it. how much will carbon caps cost the economy? how much will they benefit humankind? will they save any lives? how many? when? how much will they reverse warming? could that same money benefit humankind somewhere else?

    you cant just rush stupidly in to legislation without knowing those answers.

    did you see my link before about the money spent on carbon reduction being thousands of times more effective at saving lives if it were spent on malaria research? dont believe it?
     
  8. ok awesome

    ok awesome geaux

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    I like how I post a well written article from a well respected newspaper that presents very factual and moderate points and everyone ignores it and continues their idiotic polarized whinefest.

    You guys are a waste of time.
     
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    Krypto Huh?

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    skip to the 1:07 minute mark and listen. Even kids programs are getting in on the indoctrination.


    [MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I-AhVkXlb4[/MEDIA]

     
  10. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    what you believe to be factual and moderate is not necessarily factual and moderate according to anyone else, although i do i agree with your article.
     

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