Gore: Polar ice may vanish in 5-7 years

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  1. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Based on the fact that they've been around for 15 million phucking years, fool.
     
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  2. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    no one cares about opinions on science. the issue here is politics. do we favor government policies to fix the climate or dont we? that is the issue here. when you are willing to actually take a stand on that, you let us know.

    insert red saying "well i favor this but sometimes i oppose it unless in cases when it is balanced, because that is prudent so i am favorously opposed to enacting and repealing something and sometimes nothing..."
     
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  3. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    aah, good times :popcorn:
     
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    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Is anybody winning? :D:D
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    You make a fool of yourself, as I knew you would. Classic. :lol:

    First of all, 15 million years is not forever on a 4.5 billion year old earth. The earth has existed without ice caps for much of its history. The dinosaurs lived for 165 million years . . . yet they did come to an end.

    Secondly, natural systems are not static, they respond to changing conditions. Just because icecaps have been around for a long time does not mean that they cannot disappear. You are making a logical fallacy by presuming that tomorrow must mimic yesterday.

    Finally, since the ice caps are melting on a schedule to disappear in a few decades, then something significant is happening, eh?
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Overtly, deceptively, and enormously wrong. Just read the threads on FSA.

    I've made my position clear already. I support some policies but not others. Your inability to comprehend any position besides ALL or NONE is not my problem.

    Yes, debating with yourself is a sad but effective way of winning . . . but nobody else is fooled. :grin:
     
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  7. SabanFan

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    Then what's the BFD?
     
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  8. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    I'm thinking you are!
     
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  9. JayB

    JayB Never Forget 31

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    interesting, to say the least. i used to believe everything liberal democrats spewed. i was young and wanted to rebel; then i grew up. i'm not saying that i'm now a sheep to the republicans, but over the last ten years or so democrats have done just a bit more to turn me off than republicans have. or maybe i've just been hanging around TF too long? :redface:
     
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  10. martin

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    when asked which policies you favor, you always either say either voluntary policies that are not relevant and are in not in fact policy, or carbon trading which you agree with because of the impossibly stupid logic "it worked with sulphur". that argument is like saying that we should fight wars with bows and arrows because they worked in the middle ages. every factor is different.
     
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