Good read about the future of the spread offense.

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  1. cadillacattack

    cadillacattack Illegitimi non carborundum est

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    the Spread isn't a formation, it is an offensive philosophy, much like the "West Coast.".
     
  2. Attack Tiger

    Attack Tiger Reformed Sunshine Pumper

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    There are two schools of thought on the spread...one camp says it's a formation, the other says it's a philosophy. Either way you look at it, it does the same thing..."spreads" out the defense and moves the chains.
     
  3. Bamabuzzard

    Bamabuzzard Founding Member

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    #25 was a damn good rb and they chose not to use him as much. Why I don't know but to say they had zero running game without Tebow is nonsense. Granted he might not have been a 25+ carry back but he was capable of running the ball a helluva lot more than he did. Meyer's offense requires the qb to run a lot I watched several games when he was at Utah and the qb ran the bal often. He was going to try that crap with Tebow in the SEC and he was getting beat up so he's changing.
     
  4. DRC

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    That would explain why the Florida RB's only accounted for 25% of Florida's rushing yards last year eh? :huh:

    Your talking out your azz. Alex Smith only had half the carries his senior year than Tebow had last year. Meyers offenses have never had a QB carry as many times as Tebow did. Tebow had 15 less carries less than Jacob Hester for crying out loud.

    Meyer is riding Tebow like a cheap rented mule.
     
  5. Bamabuzzard

    Bamabuzzard Founding Member

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    Because Meyer thought Tebow was Jesus Christ and could walk on water, heal the sick and raise the dead. I don't give a ratz azz how many times Smith ran the ball compared to Tebow. Smith wasn't the physical specimen Tebow was either. But the games I watched Utah the damn QB ran the ball more times than what most coaches (that don't run the spread option) would like for their qb to run. The spread option which is what Meyer runs is designed for the qb to get a lot of carries compared to other "traditional" offenses. Rich Rodriguez runs a very similar spread option. Granted most qb's in the spread option won't get the number of carries Tebow got but they still carry the ball a lot.

    I watched that #25 enough to know that he could have easily relieved Tebow of a lot of carries but Meyer CHOSE not to run him as much. Maybe his ego got in the way I don't know. But I do know it wasn't because he absolutely had nobody to run the ball other than Tebow. That just plain bullchit.

    Smith carried the ball 149 times in 2003 135 times in 2004. That's a helluva lot of times to ask a qb to run the ball. Meyer's offense calls for the qb to run the ball a lot.
     
  6. DRC

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    Heres what I think. You posted this "good read" here in an attempt to vindicate your tide buddies opinion from supposedly a couple years ago that claimed the spread would die. I also think you posted this to give an end around shot at Aub because they are just installing the spread.

    Dodd is an idiot and this article is meaningless. Your original post claiming coaches say this offense is going to die is bunk. The only coach who says it is Croom.

    Then to further support your case you claim Meyer is changing the spread because defenses are catching up. The reality is Meyer ran Tebow more than any other QB in the country, spread offense or not, including Air Force's QB. Its a fact Tebow ran more than any other QB in Meyers career. If Meyer runs Tebow less it will be whats more in line with Meyer's past offenses instead of his rented mule show with Tebow.

    There isnt a single fact that supports your claim that defenses are catching up and causing changes to spread offenses. The only coach that says it is Croom and the only spread he knows is whats on the kitchen table. Lets here it from some spread coaches before its fate is sealed.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? The guy posted an article that was interesting. Who cares why he posted it?

    How long have you been watching this game, amigo? Innovative offenses come along and rule for a decade or so and then defenses catch up forcing new innovations. It has always been this way. If not, we would still be the playing the old Single-wing. But defenses caught up and the T-formation ruled for 20 years, then defenses caught up and other modern offenses came into play. The Shotgun, the Wishbone, The Veer, and a dozen others.

    The spread is hot right now, but history tells us that it will not last forever. Defenses are adapting and new schemes are being developed all the time.
     
  8. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    thats what i was thinking.

    the top teams dont seem to use the spread--lsu, usc, ohiost, uga. mostly just the teams that cant quite get to that level. so i dont think itll go away. texas tech, mizzou, west virginia and hawaii dont load up on top notch recruits.
     
  9. khounba

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    No they don't load up on them, but they do get great prospects at the skill positions needed to run the spread. If Colt Brennan would have played at a school with an NFL type system, he would have went much higher than the sixth round.
     
  10. cadillacattack

    cadillacattack Illegitimi non carborundum est

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    that's interesting, because i remember quite clearly Crowton addressing the media about his variation of "the spread" upon his arrival at LSU.

    the top teams don't use the spread? .... i noticed you conveniently ommited Florida, Texas, (and now Michigan) from your list. Are they considered "Top Teams?"

    and let's face facts, it really doesn't matter what type of offense that USC, Michigan, Ohio State (and other so called "elite" programs) run, ..... their recruiting will be just fine. It's also safe to assume that the opposite is true for programs like "texas tech, mizzou, west virginia and hawaii"
     

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