Good news to report from the Manning Passing Academy

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  1. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    Your assertion about his strength has nothing to do with this. Try to stay on your point. Even if it is indefensible.
    Never asserted or inferred by me in any way. Try to stay on point.
    I don't have to prove he is strong, but I could cite passing stats or his individual weight training easily. It still has nothing to do with what you claimed. That his mechanics indicate that he is not strong enough to throw down the field and that it is tied to his DNA. You made this claim and you can't back it up with anything credible. Try to stay on point.
     
  2. LEGACY TIGER

    LEGACY TIGER Defy Yourself

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    Only on a college sports forum could the possible news of some progress our QB could be making, and that he is taking steps to improve his mechanics be turned into a negative. How about we talk about the constellation instead.
     
  3. LSU-SIU

    LSU-SIU Founding Member

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    "I could cite passing stats or his individual weight training easily"

    Neither one is evidence that he has good arm strength in throwing the ball or more like throwing the ball in an actual game, you do realize we are talking about throwing a football in a game right.

    Let me see I guess the strongest man in the world should be signed by a MLB or NFL team as pitcher and QB. WTF are you even talking about. Heck, just let whoever can bench the most be QB.

    You either have it, or you don't. You think Brett Farve played in the NFL for 20 years because he works out? No, god gave him a pistol in the shape of an arm. You are so wacko. Next Hulk Hogan signs with the Saints. JJ looks great throwing pitch and catch it does not translate to an actual game context and for good reason.

    The smartest guy there is, is JJ. He knows he can't get the ball there in time and instead takes the sack, he knows he doesn't have that ability. Every time I was hearing people go, "why doesn't he throw the ball?"? People trying to make someone something they are not is the problem. The kid is working hard and I do not fault him. We are all limited in our abilities, it's making the most of our abilities. Crowton should take most of the beating over this, because what he was doing was very correctable.
     
  4. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    I guarantee most people here are not saying that about me.
    You keep saying this, but ignoring that you cannot tie this to his mechanics as an indicator. But of course you can't stay on point. This has got to be one of the dumbest arguments I have ever engaged in with one of the most moronic posters on this site. And dude, that is really saying something. But I hear that ignorance is bliss, so you must be floating on cloud nine.

    Please keep going on about JJ as a bad QB. Nobody is paying attention, as it has nothing to do with what you said, or what I took issue about. If really need the last word you can have it. My dog has more cognizant thought processes.
     
  5. LSU-SIU

    LSU-SIU Founding Member

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    Well, stop talking like one.
    Yes, I am not staying on point when you are talking about weight lifting. Look you can claim he is the best thing since Patton Manning, you are entitled to your opinion.

    Yes, I am moron where last summer on this forum I said exactly what would happen last year would happen, almost to a T. I have heard it all out here, everyone trying to make young kids something they are not.

    You keep on with your nonsense all you want the choice is yours.

    Never said any such thing, I said he has limited ability throwing the ball, I said he has a huge mechanic and can't get the ball out on time. You just said he is bad, or you were thinking it because I never said that. He has limited throwing ability, and chances are god is not going to come down and change that, any more than he is going to come down and make you the next Bolt.

    Yes, you probably want proof from your dog that he is in fact a dog, but you will never find evidence that he is a good dog, that is an opinion.

    Let me know when you are going to challenge Bolt in the 100 or 200.

    As far as LSU, expect to see 8-9 men in the box especially on 1st down until QB proves he can take snaps and throw from the pocket ON TIME.
     
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  6. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    Just refreshed myself on a bunch of film of JJ in high school and LSU and he can bomb it. Pretty impressed at his fast flicks during his rollouts too. Seems he can throw it further on the rollouts where there is really no windup involved. Can get the ball downfield with ease. Most evaluation I have seen say the has good arm strength but needs some work on accuracy.

    From what I have heard the staff has been working hard with him on his mechanics with a more over the top throwing style which should help with accuracy. Haven't seen him with the new style yet but hear he looks pretty good so far during the summer 7on7s.
     
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  7. LSU-SIU

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    He's got great velocity on the ball when he has time, of course the ball is still going to be late. I am done with this conversation. Next LSU had a great offense last year news at 6.
     
  8. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    Save it for the offense thread. Because the Oline, Crowton, dropped passes, Running game had nothing to do with the poor offensive play last year. JJ had some pretty decent stats given the horrible offensive production.:rofl:
     
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  9. clair

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    Jefferson's problem is decision making.

    They want the ball to get from Spot 1 to Spot 2 without having to worry about what will happen at Spot 1.1, Spot 1.2, Spot 1.3, etc...

    He doesn't make major mistakes throwing the football. His mistakes come from holding the football too long, then trying to get out of a bind, thus taking a 20-yard loss and a sack.

    He needs to see things just a smidgen faster.

    And while I share this opinion, too, it's not original to me. It comes from Peyton Manning. I trust him more than I do some know-it-all here, who has seen his football experience end as a 3rd string QB for the jr. high team.
     
  10. StaceyO

    StaceyO Football Turns Me On

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    Clair, according to the one who knows it all, he takes the sack because he knows his arm is weak. He's just working with what his DNA gave him.
     
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