Good news to report from the Manning Passing Academy

Glad to hear this. I think this year is the least excited I've been pre football than I've been in the last 15 years. I need something.

 

I think I am less excited as well, but I still have hope. After we were told last year about the best offensive line ever and the promise of the great recruiting class (which really didnt mean anything to last year) Im apprehensive this year, the only thing I can hope for is improved QB play and better attitudes among the players.

 

No, you saying that mechanics(a learned skill) is genetic is borderline retarded. You act as if JJ has MS. And as to his strength, he is a big man and could probably bench press you and your plate of nachos without breaking a sweat. His mechanics are not good. That is not debatable. Saying that they are tied to his DNA and therefore unalterable is stupid. You plainly said he did not have strength because of his mechanics. And you said this is tied to his DNA. Criticize him all you like, but at least say something plausible or prepare to be slammed.

Live with it.

 

Why is it people like to say what I am saying instead of just reading it.

"You plainly said he did not have strength because of his mechanics."

No, he has limited arm strength, his mechanics covers up his lack of nature arm strength but using everything in his body to put the velocity on the ball, problem is he doesn't have the ability to unwrap that mechanic fast and yes that is genetic . He has limited ability to just flip the ball down the field, he has to have his stance and a wide area in which to unleash his mechanic putting his body behind it. Heck you can have the same wind-up as Roger Clemens but that is immaterial if you don't have his stuff. JJ does not have the stuff. This is not rocket science, we are all limited by our genetic makeup. Let me see you think if you have the right form you are going to run as fast as Bolt? No, you are not, doesn't matter what form you use. Those are the cards you have been dealt, your genetic makeup.

Live with it or don't I assure you the chances of you running as fast as Bolt is not going to happen and doesn't matter what your form or mechanics are.

 

I didn't. I quoted you directly. You are welcome to now try to infer something else.

"You plainly said he did not have strength because of his mechanics."

Please provide some credible proof of this. Anything. I mean anything or anyone to back up what you are saying. It is absolutely ludicrous to make the determination you have based upon JJ's mechanics.

Talk about creating a straw man. Genetically I do not stack up in any way to Bolt - I am no longer an athlete and never was a track guy. So comparing me to Bolt is well... I think everyone gets the point. :insane:

You are saying that Tebow is a straw man in comparison to another SEC QB of similar size and also similar poor mechanics. I have no idea what your thought process can possibly be here.


Prove anything you have stated.

 

I won't say that I am less excited. But like you, I am wary after last year getting burned so badly on OL plus I expected JJ to play like he had in the Peach Bowl. The spring game only made me more nervous about our QB play.

Still I trust the report from the Manning Academy that JJ looked good in drill situations. Maybe that will carry over to the field... I am hopeful and excited to see what does happen.

 

It is encouraging to read. Most of all that Shepard has developed some good hands. Hopefully the Oline improves enough this year to make a difference overall for JJ.

 

Go watch tape on him. This isn't a court, if you disagree that is fine, I know a crazy guy that thinks the moon is made out of cheese, I am not going to convince him otherwise.

What I have said here is exactly what I said last summer, and it will be the same thing I will say next summer, and the summer after that. You either have "the stuff" by this age or you do not, matter of fact you usually have the stuff by 15-17 of age or you most probably will never have "the stuff", that's life.

Unless you give him an incredible amount of time he is going to struggle getting the ball where it needs to go and when it needs to get there. That is not the young man's fault, he is trying as hard as he can.

Crowton can help both QBs and I am encouraged for the first time in two years after I saw the changes in the spring game. It was people like you coming down on me so hard last summer for saying this same thing, in hindsight I was right on the mark, I wish I were not but I was. We are all limited by our genetic makeup, you either have the throwing ability by now or you do not, better technique and coaching can help but at the end of the day you either have "the stuff" or you do not.

To me JJ has done about as good as he could with his throwing talent.

 

Catch him in the mirror in the morning do you?

I said provide evidence of your statement in any form. Not just in relation to JJ. Make it about anyone. Find a statement from any professional outlining that poor mechanics in your QB means that he is not strong enough to get the ball down the field. You can't provide it because it doesn't exist. It doesn't exist because it is not true, except in your head. It is stupid because you chose to recant your thoughts here.

 

Evidence, go look at the games, you'll just say how great and fast he is. Just like I had to listen to the nutbags tell me how great he was running the option.

You have shown me no evidence that he is a good QB, and has a strong arm or can release the ball fast, matter of fact he lead the tigers to one of the worse offenses in the NCAA. Of course, I don't put all of that on his shoulders but you wanted it.