good discussion on longhorn network/aggies

mobius,

not very much. the first and second tier revenue split, while not perfectly even before, was not that big of a disparity. texas was making ~$21M off 1st/2nd and now they will make something closer to ~19-20.

ou and osu are academic embarrassments. i'm guessing that stanford/cal/ucla didn't want them and pac-12 didn't really want them without texas because ou/osu just don't have that much market demand for tv...they didn't add much. plus, it only makes sense if you are adding more than 2 teams. otherwise, you have most of the pac 12 west of the rockies and then one straggler in colorado and two stragglers way out in the midcontinent. doesn't make any practical sense.

 

Having a conference with more than 12 teams doesn't make sense. None of this sh!t make sense. It doesn't seem to stop anyone.

 

that's why i blame jim delaney, mike slive, and larry scott...and now john swofford. they are the ones enabling all this in their personal races to be the first superconference and it is really sad...as so much of what makes college football great is dying because of it. all they want are the biggest possible superconferences so they have as much leverage as possible to negotiate with espn/abc, fox, cbs, etc... they are all just basically taking all this chaos as an opportunity to take advantage of idiots like beebe. meanwhile, morons that don't understand how media rights in college football work (like a certain poster in this thread) are distracted by the petty crap like the longhorn network.

sad stuff.

 

Anytime lsu is spoken of on say espn, bama just has to be mentioned. Anytime the sec is spoken of you have to hear bama bama bama bla. Last year after lsu beat bama they still got on tv and said" even though lsu won today, bama is still the best team in college football". I'm mean damn. When bama blew a 24 point lead to auburn, someone still was saying chit like how this wasn't typical of a saban coached team and it was just that newton was so good. No one said anything about how the mighty saban chit the bed.

If texas was to come into the sec west and bama was to move to the east, the sec would be the texas/bama conference in the media's eyes. LSU fans would not only have to stomach the bama bias of the east and west coast media aholes, but have to listen to texas Texas Texas bla bla bla.

I'm not scared of the competition Texas would bring. We play in the sec west. I need not say more, I just don't want to hear how floppin great Texas is every time I watch something about the sec on tv.

 

Look bevo, the first thing you need to realize is that none of this is really "my problem" I don't like texass because they are mostly, well... just like you. Here is my reply.

No, I don't care because whatever is happening in the SEC, whatever the TV deal is, how the 2nd, 3rd, or whatever tier money is distributed is totally irrelevant to me. Because whatever it is, it works. Do you hear Vandy raising hell about anything? Miss St? Ole Miss? No, they are all very fat cats and know that they have it good. It is typical, the best conference makes the most money.

Just by reading this it seems they SOLD something. That means the traded something for in this case money. No, no problem with that because they no longer possess those rights? Could be wrong, and no, I don't know how all this works nor do I care. More about that later, keep your panties from getting all wadded up.

Don't care. LSU is on TV every week. When that changes then I have a problem.

Again bevo, I don't care. What I do know is that the sticking point to ALL of this is the lhn. I don't have to read 20 articles about this or that. You can deny it, you can pontificate about numbers and third tier rights as long as you wish. The fact remains that NONE of the other Big 12 schools nor the PAC12 will accept texass with the deal as it is. True right? You do know that is true right? So whatever your numbers are, whatever the SEC or any other school does is of zero importance. We are talking about texass and the lhn and it is the sole reason for the changing of the landscape of college football as we know it.

I guess that means I'm also a cajun, a phillippino, honduran, japanese, korean, iraqi, saudi (oh how I wish, I'd be a rich mo fo) german, oh what the hell I can't remember the others

I've already told you, it isn't for me to figure out. I don't have the time nor the interest. What I do know is that no one likes it. Hell from what I hear the people that hate the network the most are the texass fans (except you of course). Why does everyone want them to change it if it is what you say it is?

 

i won't deny that texas is a media darling and the lhn will not make that any better. but don't act like:

1) texas doesn't get **** on whenever anyone has a chance to and;

2) lsu doesn't get PLENTY of coverage. you get no shortage of love from the national media. i think you aren't objectively seeing it because you see bama and texas as the spoiled haves so you literally notice every single time texas and bama get any coverage and probably don't notice it the same with lsu. i mean hell, an lsu game is about to be the destination for gameday for the SECOND week out of THREE weekends for god's sake...and that's on a weekend when an arguably more deserving game is getting dissed (number 6 oklahoma state at number 8 texas a&m).

i don't think for a second that lsu is even for a second scared of competition. but texas, oklahoma, and college football are all best served by texas/ou staying out of the sec.

 

this is all you really needed to say as it comprehensively informs your perspective and complete inability to view any of this objectively.

would it surprise you to learn that it is done in the exact same fashion that the longhorn network is done? of course it would, because you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

you are about to find things out about texas a&m in the next few years that will demonstrate to you why this is such a retarded point.

hey, look at you, sport! you got something right. they did INDEED sell their third tier rights (which you obviously don't know what that is) and they were compensated for them...just the same way LSU WAS!!! weird, isn't it?

again, this was really all you needed to post. rather redundantly, it informs your perspective of ignorance and leads to you parroting factually erroneous and childish arguments like you're doing here...humiliating yourself.

well, that's not exactly true but you're getting close.

you sure seem to be upset enough about it to emotionally post a bunch of nonsense, making yourself look silly.

actually, not true. the big 12 accepted it. i know it goes against your overall theme here but i guess this is probably a good time to mention the fact that nebraska and colorado left well before the lhn was done...and that tamu was trying to wander through the fence into the sec since 1994, and very seriously in 2010, before lhn was done.

incredibly wrong...but there's genuinely no point to engaging you (should have stuck to my original instincts). your argument essentially boils down to "well i don't know nothin' but i don't need no numbers and book learnin' and bla bla bla." which is...kinda retarded.

i can't even interpret this.

you sure seem interested on this thread...derailing reasonable, tempered discussions over the business of college football with a bunch of petulant, ignorant comments that are completely baseless and clearly from someone who doesn't even understand the context of the discussion. perhaps you should read the original link and educated yourself on how media rights in college football work if you are interested in engaging in some meaningful conversation.

 

It is the consensus that Oky was joined at the hips with little sister, Oky-lite. Seems the sooners are having an equally difficult time weening themselves from their benevolant surrogate bevo loving self.

 

So tell me then, why is texas not in the pac 12?


Just wait till the sooner network comes out.

 

W.J., I don't know enough about how the money gets split up to comment on your points. But I think your points miss the point. I don't think all of this nonsense with Texas is about money, I think it's about recruiting and the added power that Texas will have due to the Longhorn Network.

This is the age of Twitter, YouTube and the Kardashians, and there aren't any kids at the star player level that aren't aware of how things work. I can't imagine that there's a single fan of the other schools in the Big 12 other than UT, who doesn't think that Mack Brown will be sitting in somebody's living room, telling a couple of parents how their kid will be on ESPN every night, because Mack has ESPN in his back pocket.

And that fact has pissed a lot of folks off, in a big way. A&M may have been looking to leave for a while, but to act as if LHN was not a final nail in the coffin is nonsense.

As for ESPN, I'm watching the studio show this weekend, wishing that Lou Holtz was wearing a bib to catch the drool, when Rece Davis starts in about telling people to be sure and tell their cable companies that they want the Longhorn Network on their plan. That's all I needed to hear.

ESPN no longer covers college football. They are business partners, actively manufacturing their own news and the subsequent coverage of it. The conflict of interest borders on the fantastic, and I don't really understand why they're doing the deal with Texas. What, they're not pervasive and powerful enough yet?