i don't like chasing points. i think it sends a message to the team that says, "we're not confident". i think we kick the extra point and send the d back out to line up again. guess that's why i'm watching from home....
Just something that I thought about watching the Dolphins-Patriots game on Sunday. Pats scored a TD to put them ahead by 5 pending the extra point, with 17 minutes to play in the game. Belichick elected to go for the 2-point conversion. I didn't catch as much as a hint that this might have not been standard procedure from the announcers. Maybe Miles was a lunatic for trying for the 2, but maybe he was in also in good company.
I think it is pretty standard operating procedure. My dad coached for 40 years, and he said it was a good call for the situation.
nope not standard. when they first created those charts i dunno like 15 years ago, they used to just follow it without regards to time. as they learned through experience, the time factor is the key to it all, obviously. as a fan you can see ignoring that chart is best until midway through the 4th qtr. otherwise it costs you way more than helps. that was the case here once again. sounds good at the time but once the emotional part is left out you understand its not the right decision. although miles is an emotional creature which is the same emotion that makes him different than other coaches and is a big part of his success. so you gotta take the good with the bad.
The call was idiotic. It really was. Not sure how anyone could think it was the right move. I shut everyone up before the play and declared that I wanted to be on record as saying it was a horrible decision. It cost us too. Even after the INT botched call, we would have gotten the ball back down one score and that would have changed the way we called plays. You never go for two in a close game like this until mid fourth quarter like Tirk said. There's no excuse for making such a mistake.
Example, Saban in the CapOne game against Iowa. 4th and 6 at the Iowa 22, fake fg, don't make it... 3 points off the board... then go for 2 after the lsu TD, don't make it... now 4 points off the board. Score should have been LSU 29, Iowa 24 on Iowa's last drive... and, knowing we needed a TD, the safety would not have been out of position on Tate's pass. So to Tirk's point, "emotional creatures" sometimes do things "in the moment".... and usually pay for it.... and these are pretty expensive coaches.
It was a good call. If we get it we go up by 7. This is one of those calls where if it succeeds the coach is a genius and if it fails he is an idiot. Many of those criticizing the call today would be praising it had it been successful. But a good call is a good call regardless of whether or not it succeeds and the same is true for a bad call. I have seen some bad calls work beautifully, but it still remained a bad decision. The coach just lucked up.
if we wanted a robot, we would have hired ferentz. but seriously, i like coaches who play by the gut and not a drone. big risk equals big reward. those 5 first downs over UF got us a crystal ball. go big or go home. if you coach overly conservative it is seen in the play on the field. this is what will almost always cost saban. but hes not changing anytime soon.
A few years ago I went with my Auburn grad son to their game in Gainesville. On Tuberville's first possession, Auburn faked a punt on a 4th and 7 inside their own 30. They failed to convert. It went downhill from there. I like gutsy coaches, too, just not those with a need to interject their own egos into the games.
