Go ahead, blame something other than an inept QB

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  1. LSUpride123

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    Here is my deal. If Quinn drops balls all 4 years, you bet I will talk about it. This was the 1st bad game from him I saw. On the other hand, I have watch Jennigs enough to speak out comfortably.

    Like the Welter stuff. Beck with came in and has made mistakes, but generally makes more plays than mistakes. I tend to think Quinn will improve given he is a freshman. We will see.

    I blame the QB because he is the leader of the team. Or should be.

    It is that single position that holds us back.
     
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    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    I don't know if the NCAA keeps a stat for dropped passes the way the NFL does, but I think if they did, you'll find Quinn has not been as consistent as you think. But not my intent to call him out. I just can't abide heaping an entire football team's failures on one person, especially when there have been so many glaring failures in addition to QB. To be completely fair, the other failures are working themselves out quicker than the QB play, but it is the hardest position on the field to play.

    The play calling has certainly limited Jennings, and those two issues, play calling and performance, are likely feeding off each other. Like the comparison I made about Sims earlier.....Sims doesn't appear to me to be any better than AJ, but Saban/Kiffen are not limiting his opportunities the way Miles/Cam are limiting AJ's. Don't forget the OT. When the chips were down, AJ threw a first down pass that was dropped, a 3rd down pass that was on-target, but well-defended, and a 4th down pass that (while it was the wrong decision to throw; he should have run it) was on target and should have drawn a PI flag. Jennings' numbers might improve if the coaches would show him some confidence with the play calling.
     
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    Kal-El012 Founding Member

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    And he'll be a senior next year with the same issues. And if Harris can't overtake him, LSU fans will be seeing the same shit next season as this one, and 8 of 10 before that. Hell, even if Harris overtakes him, we may see the same shit. And in the overall wide picture, what does that mean?
     
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    Kal-El012 Founding Member

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    Your brother keeps recruiting shitty QB's and having a one dimensional offense and those ten years will be a long lost memory to more than just a few.
     
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    Yea. Quinn has something like a 60% drop rate.

    The reason I am not as hard on the drops is because I firmly believe it is a direct result of QB WR chemistry.

    We did not build Jenninga confidence early. He throws a pretty deep ball, but is widely inconsistent. I also think his demeanor shows a lack of confidence.

    His velocity is another weak point I think our WRs need more time with. His balls are aomewhat slow to arive IMO


    I agree about SIMs. He has about the same talent as AJ. He is managed better.

    My thread title was out of anger, sadness, and too much to drink. I think that is clear enough.

    Though I do think our QB is the major issue facing our team.
     
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    Rouxleaux Do I get bonus points if I act like I care?

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    Right on target. Look back not last year but the year before. OBJ had serious issues with dropped passes. One offseason of busting ass and he was making circus catches.
     
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  7. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    Chemistry is about situational awareness. The QB knows the WRs tendencies if he is covered and has to break off the route. The WR knows whether his QB will hang in the pocket or bail out quick, and how likely he is to throw into tight coverage. Drew Brees throwing to Graham or Colston in tight coverage, knowing they can out-jump most defenders, and them being prepared for that throw is chemistry.

    A receiver who drops a ball that hits him in the hands, even if its the 4th quarter and he hasn't been targeted all night, is not chemistry. Its just a screw-up.
     
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    How does he go from his sophmore season to being a senior in one year?
     
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    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    One more chemistry example...

    New Mexico St game, Jennings' final pass before being yanked. AJ throws Mal a 10-yard out ball. Problem is, Mal had run a 10-yard buttonhook. Mal watches the ball sail by, turns and gives AJ a "wtf" look. That is lack of chemistry.
     
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    Rouxleaux Do I get bonus points if I act like I care?

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    This kind of stuff happens several times a game. If Jennings wants to improve chemistry take a page out of metts book and this off season get with your receivers and put in some extra practice. It payed off with OBJ, Landry, and Mett last year for sure.
     
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