Giulbeau's SEC Coaches ranking

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  1. Fishhead

    Fishhead Founding Member

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    That's funny right there!:rofl:


    Bama, Guilbeau is our version of Finebomb. He's the local idiot, so to speak.:thumb:
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Yes, we all know about Guilbeau. He's Louisiana's Finebaum. Everything he does is to be controversial.

    Bama fans all seem eager to tell us how bad our coach is. Just wait until December, Junior, and see a poor coach win 11 games and your fabulous, rich coach win 7.
     
  3. BAMA DON

    BAMA DON Freshman

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    I think Les has done a good job. He may turn out to be one of the best coaches in the league. I'm impressed that he did as well as he did in '05 given the stresses of the hurricanes. I had a few encounters with those things and know how difficult recovery can be. I haven't seen any signs of the program going down hill. I really didn't know he was your equivalent of Finebaum. My Apologizes. After rereading his article I can see it is slanted to create controversy.
     
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  4. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    That's not true, Finebaum actually has an audience.
     
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  5. JayB

    JayB Never Forget 31

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    It aggravates me to NO end how people view Miles. Rodney Dangerfield of College Football is probably spot-on. This guy can't get any respect. Does he need respect? No, he's not an egomaniac. LSU fans know that he can coach and that he can win! What the hell kind of argument are people trying to make about him having all of this talent and no title? I don't think I've ever heard that about any coach--ever! How could you even guage such a thing? Every team has talent. Just because LSU was Jr. and Sr. laden this past season with a lot of talent ready for the NFL doesn't mean we were the most talented team in the country. We were talented, don't get me wrong, but so was SC. Our players are prepared for the opportunity to play well in the NFL. There are too many intangibles to fit in when you want to talk about talent relative to championships. Was Mauck as good a QB as Russell? I'm not going to answer that, but I think you get my drift. Plus the debacle at AU certainly didn't help. I still fume over that.

    Miles is winning with Saban's players, true (although it won't be long before that isn't possible.) Saban also won with Dinardo's. Urban won with Zook's. That's football. I think that the only thing worth repeating in all of this is the one word mentioned: won.

    And why is it that CLM is still getting a tough time for 2005? Bama Don seems to have understood well the immense accomplishment of that season. I don't know, maybe I just don't understand some things in my young age.
     
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  6. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    and miles won more with sabans players than saban did. but that never gets mentioned.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    You know, to paraphrase BamaBuzzard, I'm an LSU fan, not a Les Miles Fan. You won't see me ever writing swampmamma-type unrequited love posts about Les. I liked Gerry Dinardo too. He brought back the white jerseys, he had three straight winning seasons with bowls, a 10-win season and he brought back the magic. Then he let the wheels come off and we had to let him go, likeable as he was.

    When and if Les actually ever starts losing, then I may question his competence, too, but until then I'm delighted to have a coach winning 85% of his games here. We know that he won't have 11-wins and a top-3 finish every year, but I ain't really expecting any 2-8 Dinardo-style collapse either. If he continues to recruit well and attract the kind of assistants that he has, LSU will continue to be successful.

    The verdict is out on any coach who isn't in the twilight of his career, of course. Nick has proven that he can win at LSU, but he still has to prove that he can win at Bama, where he's 0-0. Tuberville has to earn more than one SEC title per decade and he has to beat Nick, too. Spurrier still hasn't proven that he can win at Carolina, for that matter.
     
  8. Atreus21

    Atreus21 Founding Member

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    "Junior"? Don't you mean "amigo"?
     
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  9. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    Like the lines about LM that you don't understand or care for, that line is one that continues to confuse me. Especially when I consider the coaches that have been at Bama, who have done well, but aren't as good of a coach as Saban has proven he is.
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Well, amigo, considering the coaches who have been at Miami, who have done well, why wasn't Nick successful there? What coaches have done before isn't really relevant, is it?

    What I'm saying is that Nick still has a lot to prove, too. Every coach in the league has something to prove, really. I have never predicted that Nick will fail at Bama, I don't think he will. But he still has to prove that he can succeed there. Nick doesn't get a free pass and you know it. He has to prove a lot of things to the Bama nation. You fellers were just as confident about Francionne, Price, and Shula before they played a single game there, too. We all do it.

    But if I'm to accept that the verdict must remain out on Les because he's "doing it with Nicks players", then you must accept that the verdict is out on Saban, not only because he'll do it with Shula's players, but because he hasn't won a single game for Bama yet.

    This will all be clarified this year. Les is using none of Nick's coaches this season and next season will have only a half-dozen of Nicks players left. Nick will begin winning games for Alabama and we'll soon find out if he can repeat his success at LSU in another time and place. The same goes for Spurrier and the verdict is still out in his third season at Carolina.
     

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