Get your hip waders out boys 'n girls

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by shane0911, Jan 27, 2010.

  1. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    I talked to an Obama supporter the other day and he kept blaming it all on Bush, I pressed and pressed and pressed then finally asked "when does it become Obama's presidency?" and he blurted out "never."

    Too many believe this. Yes he inherited a tough situation but he's the one continuing the wars. He's the one spending like crazy on things that do not stimulate the economy. He has to take accountability for his actions.
     
  2. DRC

    DRC TigerNator

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    I think the SCOTUS ruling is bullchit. I also think Alito was out of line shaking his head and mouthing "no". I also think Obama should have avoided that topic in a state of the union address. It wasnt the right time and place for it.
     
  3. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    I wasnt trying to argue with you, simple as that. Nothing gets done at anytime and people are tired of that. There is no supermajority right now, with guys like Nelson, Liberman, Baucus.
    also with Reid and Pelosi at the helm, its doomed for failure, they are the opposite of what a leader is.
     
  4. Krypto

    Krypto Huh?

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    Not upset at all. I was just backing up a point.

    I am for M/F campaign finance reform and I don't like corporations/foreign corps/special interest groups interfering with elections, HOWEVER now that the SCOTUS has struck down MF. There is nothing to do until a Constitutional Amendment. Why call for legislation when it will just fall to the axe? Why publicly scold (1st time ever) the SCOTUS to their face?
     
  5. Texas_Tiger

    Texas_Tiger Tiger Stuck in Aggie Land

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    They did, they proposed Tort Reform, income tax credits on health plans, elimination of restrictions of selling health insurance across state lines, and expanding Medicare to those who are 2 1/2 times below the poverty line. But it was hard to propose it when you are locked out of the back room negotiations.

    Face the facts, this administration tried to ram unpopular legislation down everyone's throats and it backfired. The arrogant ass even went so far to say that "the reason Scott Brown was elected, was the same reason he was elected;.... because of the last 8 years".

    Obama has an agenda, the same agenda as Pelosi, Reid and Frank, and fortunately America is finally saying NO.
     
  6. Krypto

    Krypto Huh?

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    I really would love for every single member of congress to lose their job. IT won't happen. And when the Republicans gain a supermajority the same chit will have again. Congress is a joke. They have lost complete touch with the populous of the country.
     
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  7. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    Obama is losing voters at a prodigious rate. And it's not because the republicans are delivering a great message, it's because Obama is not delivering anything he promised to the independent voter. It's humorous that his defenders claim that Pelosi is ruining his administration, when there is nothing to suggest that he would govern from the middle, other than his most recent words on his presidential campaign.

    Obama is a liberal, with liberal ideals. He got elected because of disgust with Bush's far right admin, and by playing down his own far left leanings. Now that he is governing according to his own ideals, the people are rejecting it.

    Excuses can continue to be made, but Obama does not appear to have the common sense of Clinton in '95. Probably because he does not have an administrative background, nor come from a career where he was forced to include conservatives also. Like it or not, he has had a democratic congress and could not deliver. And he can continue to blame everything on Bush for the next 3 years - and then pack his bags.
     
  8. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    but what they have done is interpret the constitution. they checked his power, he can do nothing short of a constitutional amendment. they win, game over.
     
  9. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    i dont know, im not an attorney or politican or political scientist. but i do know what he said---

    "With all due deference to separation of powers, last week the Supreme Court reversed a century of law that I believe will open the floodgates for special interests –- including foreign corporations –- to spend without limit in our elections. (Applause.) I don't think American elections should be bankrolled by America's most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities. (Applause.) They should be decided by the American people. And I'd urge Democrats and Republicans to pass a bill that helps to correct some of these problems."
     
  10. Texas_Tiger

    Texas_Tiger Tiger Stuck in Aggie Land

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    I have to disagree, the original suit was filed due to a Non-Profit documentary about Hillary. The FECA ruled it ineligible because it was considered "electioneering communications". McCain - Feingold law was fundamentally flawed because it included a Media Exemption. Why should corporate media giants, like Time Warner, NY Times and Hollywood studios (which are all left leaning) have unlimited campaign spending privileges?

    The Supreme Court simply eliminated the distinction between media corporations and other corporations. The opinion did not disturb bans on direct contributions to candidates.

    That being said, I have no argument against reinstating the bans, but make it across the board.
     

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