In the 4 minutes between the first call to police and the incident... instead of getting his ass home (he was roughly 75-80 yrds away from where he was going), he confronts Zimmerman, breaks his nose and pounds the back of Zimmermans head in to a side walk. End result Zimmerman shot him.
Ouch, that stung. What kind of an ass follows anyone around at night, he made the 911 call, now go home. I have been in a number of HOA's and seems like every HOA has one....Tough guy, armed citizen patrols, etc. But, as it turns out, they are usually the equivalent of a keyboard commando. All Hat, No Cattle. Just because I wear a tin hat, don't judge me.
From what I've seen of this whole story, two a-holes got into a fight and now one is dead....move on.
The joke is that the prosecutors over reached so much in their charge. 2nd degree was a ridiculous politically inspired charge and maybe a result of prosecutorial hubris. Manslaughter was a stretch as well IMO. Testimony leads me to believe that Trayvon starter the physical altercation. Self defense when you have been jumped, punched and had your head beaten into the pavement seems reasonable. That is what the testimony seems to indicate. It doesn't matter that Zimmerman's injuries were light...he didn't know how badly he was hurt or how much danger he was in, nor did he have time to take much of a survey. If he was in danger taking time would have lead to his death. That Zimmerman was reckless and negligent as well seems like he put the whole thing in motion by his actions. He should not have gotten out of the car. It would have been reasonable to test that proposition and if the trial had been on that basis it seems a conviction may have been had. I do understand Trayvon had 4 minute to go 75 yards and also had the option NOT to attack Zimmerman so it would have been an interesting trial.
So if not 2nd and not manslaughter then what? From what I gather Fl is one of the states that allow the jury to convict on a lesser charge even if the state screws it up and goes for too much as they did here. The jury even ssked for clarification on the ms charge and still came back not guilty. To me, the way I understand it there were 6 women (4 moms) on the jury. It appears they did their job, asked the right questions, thought it through and made a decision. I'm fine with that and I believe it is the way its supposed to work. Not that I am in either camp, just saying if the DA doesn't make his case then the guy should walk.
The trial is about the law and the evidence. That amounts to about .1% of the commentary, hoopla, and hype surrounding this case. Many people are so heavily invested in the 99.9% of the bullshit they can't or won't or don't think clearly. In the end, validation of the complete failure of the US Education System. I used to think I would be dead and gone before the old US of A capsized. No longer very sure of that. It is really stunning to reach that conclusion.
I agree they did their job right. IF there is/were a negligent homicide charge or a reckless endangerment charge I think those are more in line with the testimony and evidence. It may be he would be found innocent but 2nd degree and manslaughter charges were total BS.
I agree with the verdict but I feel deeply sorry for the parents in their loss of a child and so young. I agree, it is terribly worded. Sorry.
Completely, and I will say this, I thought the parents of the youngster handled themselves with dignity and class considering. You can't even begin to question their thoughts because at the end of the day this man did end their child's life.
Great point LaSalle, I was listening to some of the stuff on the news, and comments that the parents had made and thought the same thing. They are handling it better than the general public could ever hope to.