Arbitrage is not essential to free trade. Not in the least. It's settled, you are a tool who pouts like a child when he doesn't get his way.
like i said, dude, if you dont like it when people buy and sell things from each other, things that you do not own, then i suggest you officially join the communist party and try to control everything yourself. again, most of your problems seem to stem from the fact that you love to control people, and want to be world king, dictating prices and what can and cant be sold.
I'm just talking here, Chicken Little. What are you afraid of hearing? You just keep repeating your insults but it won't make anybody forget just how badly you lost this debate. You are a very small man . . . and I'm not talking about your height.
what was the debate? i favor freedom for people to purchase whatever they want, including speculating on oil futures. i favor this because i believe in freedom. presumably your argument that you think you won is that freedom is terrible and you hate it and therefore your argument is right? you are like the kids at occupy wall st. no real thoughts, just opposition to something for the sake of it. jealousy perhaps.
That was not my argument at all, of course. It is on record. You lose really badly, you know. Trust me, buddy. Nobody dreams of being martin.
show us how you win arguments. dont just tell us that you win. i think i adequately described how a free market works, and how people must be allowed to buy and sell whatever they want from each other, including oil futures (even if it effects the prices you think you are entitled to take those things from others). if you think you made an argument against that, then good for you. i know you are far too cowardly to ever explicitly make a point, preferring to imply that things that are disastrous, then back off them when i investigate. so again, people will continue to be free to speculate on whatever they like, and you will be free to hate freedom or whatever, and have a terrible argument for why you hate it. there is no law that says you have to make sense, so good for you, little guy.
The topic was gas prices and you went off on a tangent, as usual, arguing against positions that nobody has made. :insane: You are really making a fool of yourself today. :dis:
ok, well so i can potray the true extent of your cowardice regarding your own opinions: if you believe that speculation has contributed to higher gas prices, and that higher gas prices hurt the economy, then what do you propose to do about it? i propose that nothing should be done about it. if you agree with my position, then i am not sure how i have lost any argument, because that has been my position all along. if you disagree, then what do you propose? what exactly is your position, that you do like speculation? thats great. its not a real opinion. i dont like asparagus. its totally inconsequential what you dont like.
A leading attempt to prejudice your argument. Junior-high debate technique. I have proposed nothing, only proven that speculation is driving prices higher than natural supply and demand, which is my original thesis that you tried to deny. I have proposed nothing at all, only pointed out (with links) that many that many economists are suggesting that unbridled speculation from parasites that are neither producers nor users are causing the national economy to undergo bubble and bust cycles, not just in oil prices, but also in the mortgage crisis, and the bank crisis. I refuse to keep answering the same questions over and over again. Come up with something new or be ignored.
i denied that it matters what is driving demand. for exacmple gold prices are driven by your investing in gold, not necessarily people using the gold for something. same thing with oil. it doesnt matter why there is demand. the speculators are a normal part of the market. i know. you never do. thats delightful. a false problem that you have proposed no solution for. well done you have really made some great points. you said you dont like speculation. good for you. maybe one day consider joining the adults and making an actual point besides "i dont like X". again, i dont like asparagus. i dont want this problem managed in any way, i just dont like asparagus. i just wanted you to know. i win the argument.
