From Dandy Don(re: Les Miles)

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  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    And I agree with that from a mechanics standpoint. They obviously learn how to be a game time QB elsewhere and apply it here while the guys here don't learn that.
     
  2. BayouBengal014

    BayouBengal014 Founding Member

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    When it comes to rating a QB out of high school it is tough. Same as trying to scout a kid in high school baseball. You never know if he can exceed at the next level. Sometimes it just ever clicks. Etling came from Purdue where the expectations were no where near the expectations at LSU. I think he feeds off of that because in the end he has nothing to lose. He's still viewed as the QB who relieved Brandon Harris so therefor nothing negative he does will look bad on him because people will only point fingers at Harris or the coaching stuff. Also Etling was all they had st Purdue so he's matured ahead of Harris.
     
  3. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    Well you can count on a spread option QB trying to play in a pro style offense not clicking 99% of the time. Not much guess work there.

    What does low expectations have to do with him being able to read a defense, go through his progressions, identify pressure and make good decisions? Did anyone have high expectations of Harris after last season? After the Wisconsin debacle?
    What does that mean?
     
  4. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    Etling's ability to maneuver IN the pocket is light years ahead of Harris. I hear-tell Etling was a passing QB recruit whereas Harris was more of a mobile QB recruit. Is Miles so obtuse to not recognize in his time here the few times he's had success at QB he's had the former? Yes. If Etling hadn't recruited himself to LSU due to sharing a hometown with Cameron, Harris would still be out there struggling to scrape together 100 yards per game. DONT BLAME HARRIS, BLAME THE IDIOTS WHO HAVE CONSISTENTLY SUCKED AT INCORPORATING QB INTO THEIR OFFENSE.

    And for all the idiots rallying around Miles, who think if the players just executed better everything would be great, have you not recognized the years of poor execution under Miles. Until he proves he can consistently field a QB, Miles is an opportunist. Plus the political landscape is pretty depressing.

    Hope Etling can keep progressing; it's nice to see what could be if Les got out of the fuckin way.
     
  5. el005639

    el005639 Founding Member

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    Believe it or not Purdue has produced the most nfl qb at least that is what I read somewhere a few years ago. So their qb scouts must be quality.
     
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  6. BayouBengal014

    BayouBengal014 Founding Member

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    Its not that easy. All I'm saying is that Etling was able to gain feel for the pocket in a live game and has the offense built around him at Purdue. Harris was asked to do too much and never developed. It can be a lot of pressure for a kid to come into a program and expect to perform at s program at LSU. Some guys just never develope. I played QB and I know it's more than just mechanical.
     
  7. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    Harris was asked to do too much? Are you fkn serious? The only thing he has been asked to do in his 3rd year was to go through his progressions, at least one past the primary WR and hit a wide open target 10 yards down the field. He failed miserably and he wasn't even asked to do it often. The bar was set so low for Harris that a flounder would have trouble squeezing under it yet Harris kept tripping over it. How complicated is a two WR set? It's not like he had to think about a ton of options and he had the unbelievable gift of being able to throw against defenses that stacked the box on every single play. It just doesn't get any easier than that.
     
  8. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    To be fair he had a couple seasons of passing which is the equivalent of one game for a team like Louisville. Not the most pass friendly place. In fact it's the worst.
     
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  9. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    I agree, but part of that may be that he doesn't realize that there is more than one WR on each play and he can't hit the side of a barn with a shotgun. The QB and offensive situation is 100% on Miles, but Harris is a shit show all by himself.
     
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  10. BayouBengal014

    BayouBengal014 Founding Member

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    Dude I'm not going to state the obvious you know why it was too much for him.. Like I said some guys have it and some don't. It's like my old high school coach used to say K.I.S.S. Keep it simple stupid. That's clearly the case with Harris and it's not enough against our opponents because they now have enough film on Harris to stack the box and force him to make irrelevant passes.
     

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