For those who know DL technique...

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  1. lsudolemite

    lsudolemite CodeJockey Extraordinaire

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    Um, who in this thread claims they know more about coaching than the staff? The OP asked a good question and it deserves a reasonable answer in light of the recent dropoff in performance. If you think DL play isn't a concern and wasn't a big part of the D's issues against Bama, then you're as delusional as the people you're complaining about. The posters in this thread have been very respectful, so I don't know what your problem is.
     
  2. geauxtigers45

    geauxtigers45 Founding Member

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    I played D line in high school, so I'll offer a little techinique that i know.


    There are a good bit of pass rush moves.
    The bull rush: Using strength to "bull through" the opposing linemen by using power and being quick to push the o linemen back.

    Spin move: Dwight Freeney is the most effective in this. Gotta be quick though because good o linemen can defend it

    Swim move: taking your hand thats not on the ground, placing it on the o linemen's shoulder, then ripping through.

    The Rip or Club: Breaking the Linemen's hands off of you, then either bull rush spin or swim through him.

    these are the moves that i was taught. Here's my breakdown of our D line

    Allem: Speed rusher, takes wide angles and weakness is agaisnt the run

    Woods: Big body, Little production.

    Alexander: Effective when on his game

    Pep: Haven't heard much about him

    I feel like our talent level isn't on par as it has been over the years. We have produced excellent linemen like Dorsey jackson lavalias Spears etc. but this year we aren't getting the same production. Whether it be talent or coaching or maybe both is beyond me, but it better improve by next year if we want to be taken seriously
     
  3. LSUTyga73

    LSUTyga73 Football Connoisseur

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    I agree with what's been said. No all-american at DT and no big DE's. I remember in 2003 we had 6'4", 296 lb Marcus Spears on one end and 6'7" Marquise Hill on the other end PLUS all-american Lavalais in the middle. No wonder our D was so good that year; we got so much pressure on the QB with that line and could stop the run.

    Seems like this year it's been an either/or type of deal. We can stop the run but our pass rush diminishes or we can get pressure but they start to run on us. It's really astonishing to see how much we have dropped off. I guess we've been spoiled with the all-american defensive linemen...
     
  4. ccgw

    ccgw luv'em Tigers

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    One thought to throw out there as a question: I remember during the Saban years that the team were also learning Karate. Was that for conditioning and agility, or was that helpful with trench work? I can see Judo as a way of neutralizing the opponents' powerful engagements.
     
  5. LSUTigerDad

    LSUTigerDad 2009 Pick Em Champ

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    What exactly is the problem with the lack of pressure?

    Not being able to beat the guy in front of you.
     
  6. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    am i the only one that never sees our DL stunting?

    anyone have info on downs?
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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  8. $TigerFan$

    $TigerFan$ Father of CajinKid

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    So what do you guys think our DL will look like next year?

    We have three seniors there now,Alem,Alexander,Woods.
    Who you like:

    Juniors
    Levingston DE
    Hicks DL
    Nevis DT

    Sophmores
    Daily DL
    Johnson DL

    Freshman
    Logan DE
    Brockers DE
    Edwards DT
    Clement DE
    Aghayee DE
    Davis DL
    Montgomery DE
     
  9. LSUtiger327

    LSUtiger327 Pow right in da kissa

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    i agree that our D line isn't what it used to be, sorry charlie.

    and there's much merit in whoever stated about the DE's being small. guys like nevis are a beast but he's drawing doubles and it's limiting him.
    alem has been figured out, he's a pure speed rusher that apparently has no moves. i watched him like 20 times rush straight outside the tackle with no moves back towards the pocket. the tackle just keeps pushing him outside and he's taken out of the play completely.
    you'd think he'd be small and quick enough to spin back towards the qb.

    also that kills us on runs. the left side is just asking to be tested.

    i think the future is bright on the DL but think LSU right now has too much of a mix of ineffective upperclassmen and inexperienced promising youngsters.

    but i really do think the D line will improve in the coming years.

    now i need someone to convince me that the O line will get better in coming years and i'll be just fine.
     
  10. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    I think Brockers, Montgomer, Davis, Aghayee, Clement, and Edwards are going to be studs.
     

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