We don't know where Miles would have finished with the team he had, he may have matched what O did. O may not have done anything spectacular at 6-2 with the talent we had. I think Aranda was a big part of that because our D talent was pretty good last year. O will earn his pay if he can turn this around. If not then he is what many of us thought he was. I hope he has changed but so far I don't see any improvement.
This is Orgeron's fault, no that would be miles and his inept QB development. Which has already shown more improvement in the last couple of games in Orgeron's tenure by the way. Yea the bubble screen was productive, at first not when you run it 50k times and then people expect it every other play. Please don't quote Rohan as holding school records being ranked 9th isn't something to use as a point. I'll give you Jamarcus at 3 but Rohan no. Still I don't want Jimbo back, again 0-2 for 2017. Loosing to a non ranked going no where NC state team. No thanks Oh so it doesn't count either, not at 2 separate schools. Must have been just luck then. Could have fooled me Bullshit on this one. You think when saban came on players didn't leave? The QB is not is deal, if it isn't fixed then it is his baby. Same with the Oline and Dline. Your delusional if you think players leaving because of a almost 100% new coaching staff being installed is just b/c of this one coach. You bias is showing again Yes 100% if miles was still here we would have the same number of penalties and no one other than upper class man would have seen the field. That is encouraging. You and I will have to disagree here. I can't help you if you already have an idea in your head. Really name when we played this many freshman at one time? Your right all those schools out there who have a complete over haul go on to compete to for a NC the next year. Oh damn no it doesn't happen it takes some time. Especially when the cupboard is left bare. Look at UF after urban cryer left. We have seen O coach 1 time as a HC and fail, again 2 other times as interm and succeed but because you have it in your head you don't like the guy exclude those successes. Give the guy a chance damn. Sorry if you bought in to all of that and it hurt your heart now that we have to restock. Chicken little the world is not falling down. Slow your emotional roll, we are currently 9-3 under Orgeron. This is not the 90's, no we are not setting the world on fire but we are better than we were a year ago at this time. This is like a wound that has had a bandage on it for to long, it needed to be debrided out and re closed. It hurts but it will be better in the long run. Now you are getting hysterical and need to take some calm down pills. Go sit in the corner for a while, cool off and remember it is a game. We will be better, it will take some time to get the guys in we need and we will be competitive again. Or keep bitching and whining about a guy who has been heading the ship for what 12 games (yes I am including the interm unlike you) and give him a freaking chance. Or you might as well go watch something else.
Fisher would be in the same place we are now. No way Fisher would have beaten Moo U our only loss. What makes you think Fisher could have dealt with the defections, injuries and youth on this team? Fisher lost his starting QB has every one else and 5 star athletes everywhere and got beat handily by NC ST.
Fleck? What has Fleck proven on a big stage? O at least proved he can win at 2 major big time programs, USC and LSU
Miles did play freshman but not close to what O is doing. O is doing this for a couple of reasons. One he believes in doing that and two he knows he better for the sake of the next 2 years.
He didn't start 20 freshman nor did he ever give playing time to a true freshman. Not meaningful playing time