For all the post stating, "At least he is taking the blame"

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  1. WestCoastTiger

    WestCoastTiger Founding Member

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    Do you really think he could have done anything else and still looked at his team or his administration if he wouldn't have taken the blame? It was right there for the the entire viewing world to see. He had no choice. Any other response or justification could very well have lead to his dismissal (although I don't think they would pay 18 million) to buy him out or an all out player revolt.

    Great, he took responsibility. We all screw up, every day. We all need to take responsibility for our screw ups.

    The questions still remain, "Is he a good coach? Can he coach in the SEC? Can he handle the pressure that comes with making almost 4 million per year?"

    I don't think so. This man is 7-8 in the SEC over the last 2 years. With this type of talent, you have to look at the leader.
     
  2. ParadiseiNC

    ParadiseiNC don't worry, be happy

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    i don't know, dude, i think his biggest fault has been his loyalty to his assistants. if he goes out and gets a Chavis-level quality OC, and has a year with quality coordinators on both sides of the ball and still can't has that type of SEC record, then i will agree with you. i think he is a good HC, has strengths and weaknesses like all of us (clearly clock mgt being a weakness), he just needs better coord.
     
  3. LEGACY TIGER

    LEGACY TIGER Defy Yourself

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    I admit there have been problems that Miles needs to fix, but if we are going to look at his body of work lets look at the entire body, not just the snap shot that looks the worst. Considering he is 50-14 overall and 26-13 in SEC regular season play, I don't think it is as bad as some might want it to seem. Does Miles need to finish out this season strong, and come back next season with a serious contention for the MNC and win the SECw title, yes he does. I will concede that if we have we aren't at the top of the SECw next season then it will be time to consider replacing Miles. This season could end up a 10-3 season, good by anyones standards. 5-3 in the SEC, ok but nothing to write home about. Until Miles has a compelte meltdown of the program he should be given the respect he has earned.

    For those who want to talk about our talent and how we should be top 5 always, and how we should win the SECw always, and how we should be a contender for the MNC always, show me one other program that lives up to that standard every year. Not just a majority of the time, because that is where we are, I mean every yr. USC and Pete with the top talent and coaches in the country, NO, Texas and Mack with all the top talent in the country, NO, UF and Urban with all the top talent in the country, NO, OU and Bob with all the top talent in the country, NO, etc. Nobody is in it every year and to expect us to be is unrealistic.

    Does Miles need to fix somethings, yes he does. His track record shows that he is capable of doing just that. Sit back, watch, and enjoy you might just get surprised at how smart he can be.
     
  4. COramprat

    COramprat Simma Da Na

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    I accept his explanation because it seems genuine while the alternative would have been out of character for him. Nothing in his past actions would suggest anything else.

    Now let's look at this "7-8" in the SEC the last two years arguement...well he was 21-6 in the SEC the previous 3. Still has a chance to get another this weekend. Has beaten every SEC team at least once. Never lost to an OOC team in his going on 6 years.

    We had the worst defense in the SEC last season (we all know where the blame was there) and not much better with the offense this season. MAYBE a kid only 19 years old running an offense in the SEC, who will only get better, was part of the equation. Injuries hurt in both along with player issues the last two seasons. Given those issues I think we did pretty damn well...

    I'm not excusing the game management issues. That was inexcusable but he owned up to it and I expect it to get much better. But I think way too much is being made of every minute detail in one game to throw out a complete body of work. It's ridiculous to even suggest a guy should go after the seasons he has had.
     
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  5. Rex C.

    Rex C. member

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    You completely missed the point.

    Go back and read all the "Miles is a Coward" threads where all the BusBoys are calling him a lying douchebag.

    THAT is why you see all this discussion about him manning up.

    As for his coaching skills - yes, it appears they may be slipping, despite his overall win-loss ratio.

    Hopefully things will tighten up next year....if not, we'll need to have a bake sale.
     
  6. ParadiseiNC

    ParadiseiNC don't worry, be happy

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    well stated.
     
  7. WestCoastTiger

    WestCoastTiger Founding Member

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    Good points CO but the truth is while I don't necessarily disagree with looking at the entire body of work, we must look at what the trend is and you must agree the trend line is in the wrong direction.
     
  8. Kandjviz

    Kandjviz Founding Member

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    I'm with ya ramprat. good post.
     
  9. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    Considering what we're paying the coach and the recruiting classes Miles has had, we shouldn't be at the ass end of 1a offense (or 1 year removed from the ass end of 1a defense). The defense we field this year is better by comparison, but it still pales in comparison to what we're used to. The lines are weak and the skill positions seem mostly undercoached. We're trending down. If you read deeper into the situation than skin deep you see a situation that is not as good as it should be.
     
  10. COramprat

    COramprat Simma Da Na

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    No we shouldnt but I'd also point to a few seasons ago from 2001 until Miles took over that there was a certain coach who had abunadance of talent yet didn't have the regular season record Miles did nor the bowl record. Also he seemed to have QB problems at times (Randall/Russell) as well as a glaring loss to a second tier OOC school. Lets do this dipomatically and make all the comparisons instead of Limbaugh/Hannity style and point out what only justifies your argument.
     
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