Flag Flaps and Free Speech

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  1. shaqazoolu

    shaqazoolu Concentrated Awesome

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    I like how it's okay to restrict someone from doing something for fear that it might offend some little crybaby...but no one ever thinks of offending the person being prohibited.

    If I wanna fly a flag in my yard, I should be able to do so. If you don't like it, don't look at my house...or go fly a (your country here) flag in yours. Just because some Bama fan moves in down the street and hates my LSU flag doesn't mean I should have to take it down.

    Someone else's fragile little ego should not govern how I manage my personal property.
     
  2. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    again, you guys a re missing the point. we have private property in america, so condos and homeowners associations and offices are allowed to set their own rules and ban flags, there is not really a problem. flags can be banned the same way red can ban waterbeds for his tenants.

    this is just an issue used by fox news to get people riled up. if you want to fly your flag you can. this is a non-issue.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Nothing in the Constitution protects anyone from being offended. Life is sometimes offensive and people have to deal with it.
     
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  4. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    all these points would be relevant if we had more than 1 person a year actually getting restricted. private offices do not count, neither do neighborhoods with homeowners agreements.

    all the above examples are misleading. nobody is really getting shut down in public places with flags. if your homeowners group hates flags, live somewhere else. my buildings doesnt allow pets, you dont see me going ballistic about freedom or whatever.

    again, all the flag nonsense is just news organizations whipping you into a patriotic frenzy over nothing.

    also i dunno why are all so proud to be american, we are getting to the point now where are barely the best nation on earth. we are becoming as collectivist as western europe. britain is borderline better than the US these days.

    as far as hypocrites go, one example i can think of is people that get angry at a burning of the american flag. you should be delighted by a burning of the flag.
     
  5. shaqazoolu

    shaqazoolu Concentrated Awesome

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    Exactly my point. If you are going to prohibit someone from doing something, it needs to have a better reason behind it than "someone might get offended". That logic is inevitably a double standard.

    I don't have a problem with landlords putting restrictions in a lease or some other contractual obligations with an HOA because I can live somewhere else if I don't like it...but just arbitrarily saying someone can't do something because it might offend someone else with no other support is just stupid nonsense, regardless of whether it concerns flags or landscaping or personal appearance or anything.
     
  6. Swerved

    Swerved It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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    Exactly, Red. It can't be put more clearly than that.. Unfortunately, all to often the "deal with it" part is misinterpreted as "cry to someone about it until it stops".

    :usaflagwa
    (deal with it)
     
  7. PURPLE TIGER

    PURPLE TIGER HOPE is not a strategy!

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    I have always (and will continue) to have a large American flag attached to my home. I also always attach one to the top level of my Mardi Gras float as we roll through town.

    If someone doesn't like it they can ATTEMPT to take them down. They better make a good first attempt because they won't get a second chance. :thumb: :usaflagwa
     
  8. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    who are you to dictate to private citizens what their reasons are? if i have an office building and my employees are coming to me whining about some american flag stuff, and i just want to make money and not deal with any crap, i might ban the flags. how is that any of your business?



    thats nice but really literally none of your business.

    what are you talking about? no one is taking down anyone's flag unless they have a legit reason.

    again america is a free country, with private property. this means people who are not you get to make the rules on their own property, and if they want to take down their flags or prevent people from flying it has nothing to do with you.
     
  9. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    That makes him more American than others because he made that comment.
    You should understand that.
    Touch his flag and he will kill you.
     
  10. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    the most egregious example is the hospital office. if i own a hospital i tell you what you can and cannot do in my hospital, and if i say you cant fly flags, you can stop flying them or get out.

    do i come over to your hose and decorate your stuff with my flags? nope? so stop trying to to relate this to your property. if you want to have a say about what other people do and do not allow on their propert, perhaps you should become a communist and push for no private property and that way you can control everything.
     

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