O wasn't hired because of what he did 10 years ago. Alleva, as much as he needs to be fired today, knew of O's failure a decade ago. Men change. With a TE coach our offense looked worlds better. Two strong interim stints at major programs. Recruiting prowess. The best coordinators money can buy. Herman wanted TX and Fisher wanted F$U. Put together a hell of a campaign for the job. Other options at nonBCS schools come with their own uncertainties. And I seem to remember hearing there was contact with several candidates leading up to O's hire. Seems likely Alleva should have seen through the smoke and mirrors, but he didn't and should be fired ASAP. Those of you who remembered or googled Orgeron's record at Ole Miss; congrats. Those of you with inside knowledge/connections failed to convince Alleva, who is still the boss today.
O's success as an interim is due to the fact that as interim you have a system in place that you tweak. Pretty hard to screw that up. Now its his system and it ain't working
Pretty hard to screw it up? Miles did. I really don't think it's fair to say success as an interim is a given, particularly with 8 games left.
To defend Stacey, she said "most of 2015" and was accurate. Yes we shit the bed down the stretch and yes a Les Miles coached team "quit and packed it in". Les Miles time was definitely up, I'll never support an argument that it wasn't. Yes new coaches take time to get their system in place and get things "turned around" if you will. But that isn't the case here. I don't care how ignorant it makes me (and I'll agree it does) Coach Ed Orgeron isn't Head Coach material and I don't need to see anymore from him to make my final determination that he isn't. I don't care about depth, injuries, youth, etc. Don't Care! Our Team just got whipped by TROY. We didn't lose on some crazy final play or other nonsense, we GOT BEAT START TO FINISH! None of Troy's linemen have NFL potential (D or O) but they smacked ours around and we cry depth and youth? Same for Syracuse! This LSU team has no passion, no heart, no motivation, no fight, no leadership, no identity and worst of all no sense of direction. They didn't put the work in during the spring, summer or fall and haven't put the work in this season either. Its direct reflection of piss poor coaching and the result we see on Saturday is the shit product its spitting out.
A win is a win is a win. Yes we were overrated in 2015 and got exposed but you cant say winning isn't "good". All teams will have struggles, especially in the beginning of a season. When it comes to winning, all that matters at the end of the day, is the win. Did the Patriots share half the Super bowl Trophy with the Falcons because they were trailing by 3 touchdowns at halftime? A win is a win is a win.
Don't fully agree. I gave Miles a lot of leeway, but eventually how you win does matter. The world isn't binary and neither is football. W/L is the most important stat, but there is more to take from a football game than the W/L column.
I don't disagree with that. Most fans (rational ones anyhow) know best what their team is. I think most of us knew that 2015 season at 7-0 we were pretenders. Same as this year, I've bet against LSU 3 straight weeks now. My buddy told me Saturday morning I was crazy taking Troy with the points...."its Troy" he said. I laughed at him and said I've watched this team every snap of every game, trust me. And he did, and won big too. He text me this morning, he still cant believe it. Being a sexy name like LSU doesn't mean an automatic win. So you're right, there is definitely more to winning than just getting the W. As ESPN lobbyist like to call it "win convincingly". Like Penn State did against Ohio State last year and went on to win the Big Ten and make the playo..........wait, never mind.
what has Alleva ever done to show he could see through the sham? nothing. ever. so i had ZERO confidence in him. and he proved me right. O has never built a winner. ever. so i have ZERO confidence that he’s going to turn this around. so far results are not pretty.
We were ranked #2 going into the Alabama game, and Leonard Fournette was having a strong Heisman campaign. The wheels definitely came off after the Bama game, but it was good up to that point.
