Finally somebody exposes who the true #2 team really is

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  1. TigerFan90

    TigerFan90 Too far away from home

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    Obviously, this poll values wins, whereas, the talking heads are out there valuing losses. LOSSES! :lol:
     
  2. msully

    msully Founding Member

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    Good post

    Them bama fans love to cry
     
  3. Tiger in TX

    Tiger in TX Quack

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    Bama did not play UGA.
     
  4. LSUTyga73

    LSUTyga73 Football Connoisseur

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    Bama never played UGA, it would probably be Penn St. as their next best win. But I agree with the comments. The article is obviously pumping Oklahoma State's case.

    This is a more complete table to discuss:

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    L: Losses
    PPG: Average margin of victory (points per game)
    YPP: Average margin per play (yards per play)
    Sked: Strength of schedule (as calculated by Jeff Sagarin)
     
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  5. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Yeah, he was corrected and said he meant Penn St. Sorry, I should've just made the correction. In fact I will.
     
  6. LSUTyga73

    LSUTyga73 Football Connoisseur

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    Yeah but when you think of 11-1 Bama, what do you think of? That they lost to #1 LSU, not that they beat Arky and Penn State.

    What do you think about when you see Oklahoma state? They lost to Unranked Iowa State, not that they beat Baylor and KState

    If all wins are not the same (Why Houston is not in the argument), then all losses must not be the same either.
     
  7. lsudolemite

    lsudolemite CodeJockey Extraordinaire

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    Of course it's not complete. That's missing the point of the exercise. If someone landed from Mars and had to determine who the most deserving #2 team is, not knowing anything about college football or the individual teams, how would they do it? You need something measurable, not perceptions susceptible to human bias, and not influenced by media hype.

    That's what the BCS computers are for, to take as many relevant quantitative factors into account as possible and make a determination.
     
  8. LSUTyga73

    LSUTyga73 Football Connoisseur

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    This article was written by a member of the media, so it's biased, also giving stats that were not complete. I don't think I want that person from Mars basing their impressions solely off of this.

    The subjective factor is 2/3 of the BCS for a reason. Computers don't take into account how a team loses. i.e. USC losing to Stanford as a 41 point underdog. Only a human would be able to understand the significance of that loss rather than a computer just marking it off as another loss.
     
  9. lsudolemite

    lsudolemite CodeJockey Extraordinaire

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    Computers aren't making a determination based solely off those handful of factors. It's an illustration of how unexpected conclusions can be reached using only statistics, with no other prior knowledge. The computers have already decided Okie State is #2, so I don't even understand what your point is about the "biased" author anyway.

    If the #2 determination is supposed to be based on an entire body of work, then human beings are doing a shoddy job, since we tend to concentrate on specific wins and losses. Otherwise, why should it benefit teams with identical records, comparable SOS, etc. at the end of the season to lose early instead of later in the year?
     
  10. Rwilliams

    Rwilliams Veteran Member

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    I agree with an earlier poster. Whatever hurts bama and their fans the most is what I want.

    I think it would hurt bama's fans the most not making it there. They would feel like they wouldve won the game and were slighted. They wernt given the shot to play.

    A loss to lsu in Nola would hurt their pride.
    Not making it to Nola would really piss them off. They would feel like they were robbed. They would feel disrespected. They would feel it was a conspiracy aginst them because noone wanted to admit bama was best. They would be butt hurt. They would feel like they were made to ride in the back of the bus. I think bama fans would hurt more by being left out.

    What would make you feel worse? Going to the prom with a hot date and not getting lucky or not having a date to go to the prom with at all?

    See what I mean. Leaving bama at home would ruin their season and it was LSU that caused it! That makes me feel good. Lsu beating them and their team having to go to a lesser bowl would be great! I want their women and children to cry. I want their men to be outraged. I want them to have a mental breakdown. Pain, suffering and torment. That's what I want for them. I want auburn fans to point and laugh at bama fans and their misery. Leave bama at home. Let them cry in their beer. Lsu beat you! Lsu ruined your season. It's lsu's world and you will have to learn to live with it. Hahaha!
     
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