FINALLY! Our whorish mainstream media reports on the memo

The Fourth Amendment guarantee against illegal searches and seizures is what most people base the "right to privacy" provision on.

 

i would like specific things that the patriot is act is doing to violate our privacy. i have read that using the patriot act has helped defuse a bombing the brooklyn bridge. i do not know if that is true, but i do know all the complaints i have heard about the patriot act have been empty and vague or slippery slope, which i never buy.

still waiting on specifics of what i should be up in arms about.

also, people like to say that quote that is something like "those who give up privacy/freedom for security deserve neither"

well thats real nice dumbasses, but there definitely is a sacrifice to be made to be secure. and there is a level of freedom we have to give up to be secure. hopefully it isnt very much, like submitting our car to search at the holland tunnel or walking through more metal detectors or whatever, but nevertheless it has to be done. there is a trade-off, even if we dont like to admit it. after september 11th, guys with machine guns would stop me in the street for no reason and ask for ID. thats certainly an annoyance. but i am not a whiny bitch and i understand what is happening. we have to trust our government to keep us safe, and they will need information on us. thats fine with me. i do not suspect a conspiracy that is out to get me.

if i want to not trust the government on something, it will be spending and taxes. i know they want to take my money and waste it. but for the most part they do not want to violate our privacy for no reason and blame it on security. besides, some sacrifices are worth making if it means we dont get blown up.

 

No sh#t,

If someone gets blown up, then they are not doing what they should to protect us. It's the governments fault. Until then, they are just trampling all over our freedoms. People can be so stupid.

 

I find that a lot of these people who oppose the Patriot Act on the grounds
that it "abrogates the Constitution" and "restricts personal freedoms" are the very same people who would, in an instant, seize the weapons of every law-abiding gun-owner in this country if the Second Amendment were interpreted to THEIR liking. Apparently they favor the individual liberties that fit into their agenda over others.

Then again, some people just have to have SOMETHING to bitch about.
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Yeah, they should have at least waited until that big hole in lower Manhattan cooled down.

 

I didn't miss your point. I just artfully edited your post in order to justify my response. I hoped you wouldn't catch it.

How do you do that quote inside a quote thing?

 

When you quote you get the tags printed so you can type [ quote=someone ][ /quote ] - (without spaces) each time to increase levels of nesting.