FINALLY! Our whorish mainstream media reports on the memo

Oh please, like i'm afraid to admit i'm more left leaning or something.

Don't forget that the extremist right wingers are downright scary individuals. The extremist left wingers know the name of the purple Teletubby and enjoy blazing up.

 

How about nearly all neo-conservatives? Isn't why we had to add the 'neo'? Because they have deviated from the right-wing ideal of wanting smaller, less centralized government? National ID cards, Patriot Act, socially restrictive laws, etc...their view of the governments role has expanded tremendously, far surpassing that of their founding pillars.

 

i am not confusing anything, and you simply do not know what you are talking about.

didnt say that. i said the model is flawed. fascism is no closer to the current "right" or "left"

communism as it is described in theory does not exist and never will. there is no such thing as power of the worker and the collective. what you call a "left wing dictatorship" is in practice not different than fascism. communism is basically a lie told by leaders to justify fascism.

they are using the word statist to describe what i am telling you, there is no such thing as left and right wing authoritarianism. they are the same. government control is government control. freedom is freedom.

 

while i agree with that analysis, and think conservatives have strayed from their small government roots, i think the one place where that is acceptable is issues like security, and the patriot act is great. the one flaw with libertarianism is the way it deals with national security.

 

Survey says, wrong answer.

How about a clear thinker, unshackled by other people's opinions and mistruths, able to pull back and look at the bigger picture on every issue and search through the facts.

A centrist isn't a Canadian or Swede (sorry for the stereotypes) who is a fence sitter on every idea, notion or policy. A centrist is different than a moderate in that a centrist tends to be left leaning on some social and economic issues and right leaning on others.

The closest thing to a clear thinker that walks the earth. . . But it's ok, salty, how would you have known? :hihi:

 

i am not sure why similar terrible dictators would not fight each other. do you think stalin really cared abou the workers? was stalin working for the collective? i am not sure why you will not accept that in practice, communism isnt really the workers utopia. thats what stalin might tell you so he could justify the system and stay in power as a dictator.

go to cuba, ask a person if the workers really rule. ask him if he feels like he and the rest of the little guys really own things. i know some old cuban guys, they dont seem very pleased with the rights they should have had as workers when they lived in cuba under fidel. thats weird, considering the communist party is the party of the workers right?

apparently not you, you pretend as if communism is what it claims, which it clearly isnt, never has been, and never will be.

"radical left" meaning what? as opposed to what right? do you really believe that the people collectively own and control the means of production in a communist state? of course they dont! the heavy handed dictator tells everyone what to do.

pay attention now. your single axis political spectrum has no one attribute that differs over the length of the spectrum. for it to work, supposedly your spectrum shows fascist controlling government on the right, progressing where the people have more power across towards the left to communism, where the people as a "commune" have all the power. but that is impossible and false. people have power only as individuals. thats the flaw. communism is never power of the people, it is the opposite.

yes, they are called political theorists. they have doctorates and they teach at universities and teach people like me.

what you need to understand is that totalitarianism is totalitarianism. whether your leaders are crushing you into their so-called workers communist state, or some nationalist 3rd reich or whatever, its the same thing, you dont get to do what you want and your leaders crush you.

 

I gotta agree w/ Martin, here. Even Hitler tried to pass off Naziism as "National Socialism"...it's the actual name of the Nazi Party. Stalin, I believe, started out w/ the ideals of socialism/communism in mind...then, as
his personal power grew, he abandoned those ideals in favor of a more
fascistic style rule. Remember that a key aspect of Fascism is the formation of a cult of personality around a powerful central dictator. Stalin was a lot more like Hitler than the historians care to admit, even though it seems pretty obvious.