FINALLY! Our whorish mainstream media reports on the memo

I'll be right with you guys. I am visiting with guest at the moment. Dont think that I am lying down. :hihi:

 

proud to serve. of those i know, *** is the only one involved in seriously violent activity on a regular basis. he certainly does not seem proud of what he does, especially considering that most of the ppl he imprisons, he sees getting out again in a matter of days. i really thought he was going to lose it after he killed someone for the first time. but he accepts that it's kill or be killed...

not necessarily. you can lock your entries for only certain users on your list to read. that is not the case with *** b/c most of his friends are not other livejournal users, which is what you would have to be to be on someones 'friends' list. however, he has asked us to keep his username within the group (friends and family), and in fact has some very bizarre spelling of it that i can't even remember. if i didn't have it saved in my browser, i'd never be able to remember it. he sees it like him sending out mass emails to all of us, except he is much more candid/honest. it's his way of keeping us up to date with what's going on without having to send out all kinds of emails.

 

Now, lets get a few things straight shall we,

First, my family and I spent a very nice evening with JSracing tonight. JS is a very interesting person and we enjoyed his company very much. JS you are invited back whenever you are in the area and have a safe trip back home.

Where to begin?

I have always loved the way that liberals deny being liberals. I have never denied being a "far right wing conservative". I am very proud of my chosen label, why aren't you. And as far as the "I dislike bush because of the war" statement, I don't buy it.

I will admit to committing a generalization on this issue. However, liberals, to varying degrees, subscribe to most of the points I stated earlier. You can feel free to substitue the word "lefties" for liberals if it makes you feel comfortable. What does this have to do with political affiliation? Just about everything. On most of these issues, a person can be categorized by their party affiliation. "Most" democrats feel one way about an issue and "Most" republicans feel another. I don't believe, on alot of these issues, that there is middle ground.

The first part of the above quote is typical left speak. Your point is to make the Christian right out to be no better than islam. I don't have the time to explain the differences to you, not that you would really care to hear it anyway. I will ask you when was the last time you read about a Christian terrorist blowing him or herself up at a Jewish or islamic gathering. Or when a Christian terrorist got on a bus loaded with small children and blew it up? As far as false premises - whatever.

I doubt this. Do you even know what socialism is? The left wing of this country are in love with the idea of socialism. Socialism breeds a bunch of lazy, "dependent" (politicaly incorrect word), socially trapped individuals, excactly what the democrats (lefties) want you to be. The only way the left of this country differ from this is the fact that they want this for me and you but not for the social elite. The left scream for higher minimum wages, more welfare spending, "socialized" medicine, ect. Their idea of fixing social security is to wait it out, then raise payroll taxes to cover any short falls. Raising taxes is the cure all for the left. Social equalization is their goal. No class systems, just a bunch of mindless sheep. As far as the spending gap between Bush and clinton, do alittle homework and look at the areas that clinton cut spending to. Then look at the areas where Bush has increased spending. Clinton all put choked the military to death. I remember running through the woods screaming "Bang, Bang" at each other because we couldn't afford blank rounds for our weapons. The state of the military under clinton was dismal to say the least. Morale was at an all time low because of the conditions we were living in. Anyone here with a military back ground will back me up on this.

Why don't you move up there then if they have it so great. Ask anyone who is from canada and now lives here and they will tell you that our healthcare system is far superiour to theirs. I hope while you are living there you don't need any major medical treatments. It doesn't matter if you will die tomorrow without it, you will wait in line. I wonder why so many of them come down here when they get cancer or need a transplant of some sort? Go ahead and take them canadian drugs too, that's the only way they ever get tested for side effects.

Your little mind does not comprehend that there are Jews all over the world. Most of which are some of the best individuals I have ever had the honor to associate with. I have spent alot of time with the Israelis and would proudly fight along side of them to defend their land. Not all Jews are like Liebermann. Not that I am really against liebermann. He seems to be an honest and sincere guy, just alittle to much of a wimp for my taste. You see, I am able to say some good things about a democrat. Imagine that.

I have seen it. It literally made me sick. Moore should be hung for treason. I do so hope we meet one day. The movie was one long "fark" with clips taken completely out of context. You know this.

So that you can complain about living in a police state. I can just hear it now. You will be saying that we are no different than east and west germany after WWII. It is not the regular militarys job to guard the borders. I do, however, agree that something has to be done. I would have no problem with the national guard taking up positions on the borders. They work for the states anyway. It wouldn't take near the man power that everybody thinks. We just need to be committed in stopping them. On most immigrant related issues, I completely disagree with Bush. You see, I am not some mindless worshiper of Pres. Bush, I can disagree with him on some issues and not resort to verbally attacking him to make my point.

You are completely wrong, as usual. Freedom of religion has nothing to do with freedom from religion. That is a truely stupid statement. This is a Christian nation (for the time being) you are not forced to "believe". Far from it. In this country everyone is free to worship as they see fit, or not to. It's your choice. But, the government shall make no rules restricting the freedom of religious practice. Period. This whole "freedom from religion" junk is the battle cry of the "godless left". Just about every example of religion in the modern courts is dealing with someone saying that they are offended by religious expression. Not the religious saying they are offended by anti-religious behavior.

muslims are forever shouting that islam is a peaceful religion. Your little spokeswoman, Catie Couric, spent the entire month after 9/11 traveling around the country telling us that. Didn't she?

You know I am right. Someone like me would say you should wait until marriage. Someone like you would probably say "if it feels good do it", "it's natural", "we should teach fourth graders all about sex, they need to know", "don't abstain, just use a rubber". This is not a republican and democrat issue, it's a left and right issue.

Say it ain't so.

"Twice the fiscal conservative than me" my rosy red ass. Back up your make believe numbers. Lets see some reports that in anyway support your above statement. Don't forget about that word "Socialism"

As little as possible. Hopefully none. Since I don't know any I can't ask them. I would though. Homosexuality is a disease. You can talk about little chromosomes mutating all you want. There are just as many studies showing this to be untrue as there are saying it is. In my eyes, it is no different than pedophilia, incest, or beastiality. These "people" have a serious mental problem, and instead of addressing it we, as a society, accept it with open arms. Besides pedophilia, I have no problem with what someone does behind closed doors. It is called free will. I just don't want to know about it. I certainly don't want my young children asking me questions about it. They are not a race. No one is "born" gay or lesbian. God does not create evil. It makes me sick that, no matter what the time of day, I can not turn on the TV and not be bombarded by shows glorifying their lifestyle. There is an agenda. Some people are just to stupid, or brainwashed, to see it.

Wait a minute. I forgot. I'm the one that is brainwashed. Sorry.

Did you pick that one up on CNN last night?

Your right, we would be waiting around here for the next 9/11 to happen, instead of fighting it out over there to insure it doesn't.

 

Have you ever heard of Albania? You wouldn't happen to remember back in 96' when we went in there and kicked the crap out of them would you. Probably not. It wasn't exactly all over the news back here. I was there. We fought for 72 hours from house to house and street to street. We took back our embassy. We secured the family housing area nearby. We then set up an evacuation site, and successfully evacuated over 1800 people from the madness that had ensued there. We lost Marines. We had a some wounded. There is no telling how many lives we saved.

Do you know who we were fighting there? They were muslims. They had come down from Kosovo. They overtook the "national guard" armories, armed themselves pretty heavily, and then started letting prisoners out from the local prisons. They wanted the prisoners to raise an army to fight the Serbs. We secured the area, left a company of Marines on the deck, and went straight to Zaire Africa to do a similar evacuation.

In Albania, in 96', we were fighting the muslims from Kosovo. In 98 we went back and helped the muslims fight the Orthidox Christians from Serbia. I happened to be there for both. Yea, we bombed the sh*t out of the serbs. When we moved up toward the border I saw alot of those mass graves you might have heard about. You know what? They were filled to the brim with white Christian serbs, murdered and put there by the muslims. It seems that they didn't want the white Christians living on their land. Bet you didn't hear about that did you? By the way, just so you know, we bombed the crap out of Kosovo, that's where the serbs were. Good ole' Bill, he was little more than a tool for the U.N.

I went back to Kosovo in 2000. Not much had changed. A few of us went over to Croatia for awhile and messed around over there. Then we got back on the boat and went to Serria Leon, Africa. That's where I got hurt pretty bad and was subsequently retired from service.

Collectively, we jokingly referred to these little adventures as the "Clinton Wars". We were not at war. Serbia (the former Republic of Yugoslavia) was in a civil war with their surrounding states. We never even officially declared a side. Dont get me wrong, I enjoyed my time in the Corps. Words can not express how much I miss my beloved Marines. My Marines always performed superbly. From time to time, someone would question our missions or the motivation of the then "Commander in Chief". I, along with my superiors, would swiftly quiet any discontent and remind them that they had taken an oath, to God and Country, and it was not to be taken lightly.

None of these were ever declared wars. We never viewed them as such. They were police actions.

Let's not forget about a little place called Somolia. We Marines, of the First Battalion, Eighth Marine Regiment, pulled the army out of there. The army had performed well, they just had their hands tied with political correctness. We established control. And once this was done, we were ordered out by clinton. We lost 18 servicemen there only to abandon it once control had been reestablished. I never really understood that one. We heard something about clinton being afraid it would be viewed as another Vietnam. They needed us down in cuba to guard Haitians anyway.

Was I a fan of clinton? Hell no. I did, however, render the proper respect to him while in uniform because he was my Commander in Chief.

Red, I was not calling you anti - American or hateful. My comments were referring to the far left populace of this country of which I don't think you are a member. I disagree with some of your statements from time to time, but, I in no way meant any disrespect to you. You took me the wrong way.

I support our current mission and would literally give anything in order to lead my Marines in accomplishing it.

I have no problem with someone disagreeing with my views on a subject. It is in the way that some people voice their disagreement that ruffles my feathers. The world would be a boring place if we all thought the same way. Hell, what fun would that be?

From a Marine's point of view, I can tell you that the way the "left" conducts itself is aiding our enemy. Their actions give the enemy hope that popular opinion will shift their way and that if they can just hold out a little longer, the president will pull us out and they will have won. It saddens me every time I see these people on tv. I can't help but wonder how many men will die because of their newest little ploy. The "lefts" actions also hurt the morale of the troops and causes second guessing and malcontents (not in the Corps). We have a responsibility to our troops to do whatever we can to aid them in their mission. Some of these people do not have the best interest of the country in mind. Only political agendas that must be carried out at all cost. Even if it means the eventual defeat of our sovereignty.

Durring a time of war, for the troops anyway, political agendas do not excist. Only victory.

Semper Fi

 

Everyone that has served in Iraq could have a different opinion. I would say roughly 80% of the people I worked with were very proud to serve in Iraq and/or Afghanistan even after several months of being there.

Me? My views have changed a little bit. I am still quite happy we did what we did but I am a bit more peeved at our President for the way he went about it. Not that I am actually hateful against Pres. Bush but more annoyed that he seemed to rush something that he wasn't really prepared for. The amount of problems I dealt with because of shortfalls in different scenarios around Iraq was amazing to me and my men.

 

What "big guns"?

All you've proven is that the man doesn't speak well. Everybody already knew that, so you're not breaking any news here. However, "doesn't speak well" does not necessarily equate to "retarded". If you can't figure that out, then maybe YOU'RE the one who belongs on the short yellow bus.

 

Because as much as your narrow mind would like it to be the case, you simply cannot divide people into 2 categories. I know that it would be much easier for generalizing people like you to deal with things if you could have this luxury. But any intelligent/caring citizen should have little trouble seeing that our current, 2-party system is miserably inadequate. Reason being? Just because you agree with one side on something, does not mean that you instantly agree with them on everything. You see, some of have the ability and will to think for ourselves, and don’t need to rely on having our opinions determined for us by one of the 2 major parties. www.lp.org

Fine, don’t buy it. I’m not selling it, and am not going to lose any sleep over it. You don’t know me at all (despite what you ‘think’), and any time what I say doesn’t mesh into your oversimplified view of the world, you can simply dismiss it by ‘not buying it’. It’s a weak strategy, but that comes as no surprise. It might kill you to actually consider for once that things are not exactly the way that you think, or wish, they should be.

Again, I’m challenging you to substantiate that. How many liberals do you know? How many of them do you know well enough to assess their stances on these issues? Given your very narrow-minded approach to the world, I doubt you have the capacity to even reach such a point. All of your assertions on liberals are purely subjective, antidotal, conjecture, and nothing more. All it really is is a reflection on what you deem deplorable. You conveniently slap a label on someone who certainly must subscribe to these beliefs, because hey, you need to blame someone for all the things you don’t like about the world. This type of superiority complex is severely crippling to American society, and goes against the backbone of our culture.

Wrong. You’re confusing ‘morality’ with politics, an incredibly faulty argument that holds absolutely no water.

Ona lot of issues, yes. On the "most" of the ones you sputtered out, nope. Not even close.

No, it’s actually typical reasonable speak, but you apparently don’t have much use for that. Christianity is not better than Islam because you are a Christian. That’s like saying that LSU is intrinsically ‘better’ than a rival school because LSU is ‘your’ team. Your argument skills concerning pure fact are abysmal at best. Don’t start trying to argue subjectivity, you’ll be in way over your head.

The name David Koresh mean anything to you? Oh wait, yeah, that guy was a lunatic, and not representative of true Christians. Same thing with all the other nutjobs that think they’re the messiah/second coming, right? But some how these extremist muslims are not? What about the holy wars in Ireland? Don’t be foolish.

Hahaha. Oh man, don't waste my time with this garbage.

[8-year old voice]oooh well if you love george bush so much, then why don’t you marry him?[/8-year old voice] Guess what, dude? There are a lot of countries that are better than us in certain aspects. Better than us as a whole? No. But the idea that America is infallible and could not learn a lesson or two from other countries/cukltures is just blind patriotism and a joke. See signature.

Oh yeah, you’re right. I did not take an entire class on Jewish history at the Catholic high school I attended (sarcasm). Please, saltine, tell me all about it. That’s such a gargantuan concept that there’s no way someone unintelligent enough to be politically misaligned with you could ever understand that. Come on, man. Hardcore, right-wing/republicans are not the only intelligent breed in the world.

No you have not, I’m certain of that. Hung for treason? For exercising his right of free speech that yourself, your comrades, and so many brave men before have fought for? That’s absurd. You seem to have a misunderstanding of what ‘treason’ is, so let’s review, shall we:

First of all, he was not waging war against his own country or violating his allegiance. In fact, his objective could be deemed as very much patriotic, given his dissatisfaction with the way things are. Again, refer to my signature. Certainly, you’re not going to defy the fella who said that. Secondly, nothing about his production aided any of our enemies. Period. A critical assessment of out ‘leaders’ does not mean that he is denouncing America as a whole. He is in fact, expressing discontent with the manner in which our current figure heads have gone about things. Of course, you wouldn’t know this because you haven’t seen it.

Absolutely ridiculous. I offer my opinion on what I think should be done, then you fabricate something that I would inevitably ‘complain’ about. Oh so typical. Buddy, I think that the ‘patriot’ act (what an ironic name) is the first sign of a ‘police state’ because it severely imposes on the constitutional rights of, I’ll say it slowly, United States citizens. Explain to me how securing our borders even comes close to this. Go ahead, give it a shot. Make a connection. I’m talking about preventing aliens from illegally crossing our borders. In case you don’t know, an ‘alien’ would be someone who is NOT a United States citizen. Get it?

Ok, all that I said was that we should bring troops home from the Middle East and place them along our borders. Does it not occur to you how many national guardsmen are currently stationed over there? You’re really grabbing at straws here, man.

Explain to me how the two don’t mesh. It all comes down to choice. You know, a personal decision? If you can choose to be a hardcore religious person, I can choose to have my life completely devoid of religion, and I can also choose to not have others impose their religious beliefs on me. Yes, it’s that simple. When I say ‘freedom from religion’, I do not mean that the law states that I must be free from religion. But it does protect my right to be. Remember, when the pilgrims left England, they were seeking this exact thing, among other things.

Wrong. Most of the people in this nation are Christians of some sort. But that is, by no means, a pillar of our country. Separation of church and state mean anything to you?

Half-truth. The only court cases that you’re referring to involve either the imposition of religious practices on people in public places, or by the use of public funding. Again, separation of church and state. If they didn’t, there would be no legal leg to stand on, and you wouldn’t even hear about it so that you could make your completely false assessments.

Not the ones who are blowing up buildings and killing innocent people. They are forever shouting that the infidel must die. There are millions, yes millions, of muslims living in this country, as well as other countries, that are peaceful people, and have continually denounced the actions of the fanatics. Do you even realize that there are different divisions of Islam? You simply cannot characterize and entire, major religion, by the acts of some extremists. Of course, prejudice seems to be your tendency, so I wouldn’t expect you to understand that. First you accuse me of hating jews, and then you accuse me of apologizing for the terrorists. That's getting out of hand, sir.

I hate to break it to you, but I wouldn’t know CC if I ran into her on the streets. Yes, I know the name, and yes, I know that she is some sort of news reporter. But if you had been paying attention, you would know that I do not watch network news. That aside, there were plenty of reporters post-9/11 that gave American muslims the opportunity to speak and denounce what had been done. Maybe this hadn’t occurred to you, but not every muslim person in the world wants to destroy America. Again, let go of your good ol’ boy prejudice for 5 seconds and realize that the world is not as black & white as you’d like it to be.

You know jack sh!t about my feelings towards premarital sex. Until you do, I’d keep my mouth shut when it comes to assuming other people’s morals if I were you because it only reinforces your simplistic prejudice. And to say that there is ANY correlation between that and political affiliation is absolutely and hopelessly misguided. I have plenty of friends, republican and democrat alike, that have premarital sex.

http://www.familiesusa.org/site/PageServer?pagename=Media_statement_Medicaid_FY2006_Budget

I suppose you’re going to resort to discrediting the source in some way regarding that URL, so here is a link to a google search of the terms ‘bush, Medicaid, cuts, 345,000’. It lists 165 websites that you can browse and discredit. Have fun:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bush+medicaid+cuts+345%2C000

Don’t forget about that term ‘fiscal conservative’, of which bush is very much not:

Again with the glaring prejudice, huh? So let’s see, already you’ve completely denounced muslims, homosexuals, and people with different viewpoints from yours. Wonder what else you’re prejudice against…

No, there are not. I don’t know where you get this from, but it is completely not true. In fact, I read an article the other day (I believe in the Advocate) that links homosexuality to scents. You see, we humans have hormones. Certain types of hormones are detectable by humans of the opposite sex. These are called ‘pheremones’. You don’t know it, but when you’re attracted to a woman, you can detect pheremones. In fact, that is widely believe to be the single greatest factor in intimate attraction. Recent studies indicate that homosexuals do not receive, and therefore are not cognizant of, these scents, thus inhibiting their attraction to the opposite sex. There have also been plenty of studies that suggest homosexual tendencies in other species, such as animals and single-celled organisms. Take your nose out of Jerry Falwell’s as$ for 10 seconds and wake up to the wonderful world of modern science.

Oh, ok. So then people who have a different sexual orientation than you are now ‘evil’? How pathetic and homophobic.

Every time you spout off unsubstantiated gabber, this certainly seems to be more and more likely.

I’ll reiterate: I do not watch network news. Further, my comment about Ashcroft really isn’t that witty at all. What would make you think I had to rip it off from somewhere else? I understand how unintelligent you think that I am, despite the fact that I use logic, reason, and facts to formulate my opinion. But give me some credit.

You mean fighting over there to inevitably fuel the fire of Western hatred, thus increasing the chances of another 9/11 to happen?

 

damn CC.....

that's the longest post I've ever seen.

My ADD wouldn't allow me to read the whole thing. :hihi:

 

heh heh. understandable. i doubt that saltine boy will read the whole thing either.