News FCC Formally Proposes Net Neutrality Rules

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  1. shaqazoolu

    shaqazoolu Concentrated Awesome

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    Read the Speech - OpenInternet.gov

    I don't really like the government making rules about the internet but it's good to see that someone in the government still has some sense. This puts a lot of limits on how ISP's discriminate on what content they allow through. Sounds like we should be getting ESPN360 soon. I also want to read through it to see if this covers the apps that are allowed to access cell networks and such as well. I hope this guy Genachowski sticks around for a while.

    Sorry music industry. Time for plan B.
     
  2. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i totally disagree. net neutrality is nonsense.

    if you want to get a provider that gives you priority for your skype calls packets by throttling my enormous bittorrent porn habit, you should have that right. all packets are not equally important and should not be regulated by the government to be treated "neutrally". the isps own the networks, let them optimize.
     
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    shaqazoolu Concentrated Awesome

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    I didn't read the whole thing since I am at work but is there something in there about regulating QoS? It seemed to me like it was just going to be in regards to just blocking content, not necessarily throttling some in favor of others.
     
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    i didnt read it either. my understanding of net neutrality is that the government wants to regulate internet providers and restrict them from manipulating traffic.

    for instance if verizon wants to sell me phone service, they might block skype on fios. thats fine with me, if i want to use skype i will just dump verizon. they can block services at their own risk.

    like if time warner wants to offer a cheap internet service with low bandwidth for grandmas. and part of the reason they can make it cheap is because it is low traffic because it bans bittorrent and other high traffic applications. so be it. my grandma will not be using bittorrent to download porn. i will thouggh, so i will get a different service, perhaps pay more. it is fair for me to pay more, because i use more.
     
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    More Govt involvement.. Yay..
     
  6. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    There's only two reasons to oppose net neutrality: You own stock in TimeWarner, Cox, AT&T, etc. and have no use for the internet or you are benefitted financially and politically by businesses who stand to gain financially. Most people unfortunately will oppose this because Obama is for it or because they don't understand the technology behind it. You vote against this and it's just a matter of time before your internet bill looks like your cellphone bill and you're scratching your head trying to figure out where the charges are coming from.

    We'll just keep it simple: AT&T, Comcast and Time Warner are agasint net neutrality; Google is for it. Nothing more really needs to be said.

    David Vitter should be drug into the streets and beaten for his participation in this fiasco. Not that anyone should be surprised: Link
     
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    martin Banned Forever

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    i opposed net neutrality regulation many yers before i had heard of obama.

    sprint is $70 flat rate everything. unlimited mobile to mobile, unlimted data, unlimited text. not very confusing. you should check it out.

    how dare those companies want the freedom to manage their own businesses! dont they know you and barry O and the government are better at managing this stuff?
     
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    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    Sounds like I wasn't talking about you then. Either that or you fall under option #2.

    Net Neutrality doesn't prevent them from managing their business. It prevents them from participating in unfair business practices. They're free to charge bandwidth limits on accounts. This bill prevents them from restricting or charging extra for specific sites, applications, devices, and services because they see fit. In most areas of the country, internet access is a regional monopoly or duopoly. There's no competitive reason to not charge more for equal access.

    If you like the way the internet is now, you'll want to support net neutrality. If you want it to change (and not in favor of the consumer) then you'll want Mr. Vitter and his campaign supporters to succeed. Net neutrality will lead to even cheaper service and greater coverage areas. As a country, we'll be taking a big step backwards and become the laughingstock of the technology world.

    Just to recap:

    AT&T = Bad
    Comcast = Bad

    Google = Good
     
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    I pay Sprint $50 a month for the same thing under their old Free and Clear plan. Boost Mobile affers unlimited voice, data and text messaging for $50 a month prepaid

    Barry O? Thats a good one. Is that Obama's rapper name?
     
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    martin Banned Forever

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    thats exactly what it does.

    what is fair should be determined by the person selling the product and the person buying it. not the government.

    it is their network. not the government's. why shouldnt they be able to charge the way they want? i am not scared of them. why do i need government protection?

    we dont have net neutrality legislation now, and yet things are ok. why do we need it? what problem does it solve?


    technology and competition will lead to that, not government regulation. you need to stop invoking the government as a solution to everything.

    that isnt an argument.

    the internet is a fantastic thing, dont use hamfisted government bull**** to **** it up.

    yes. he is also in an irish tenor group as barry o'bama. few people know his birth name is actually barrinald.
     
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