FBI Investigates Possible Threats Directed at House Democrats

i never said you said voting was not an anwer. so please do not put words in my mouth. i said that i believe voting is the only anwer. my opion. i never stated what yours was, only to disagree with your stance that "what goes around comes around" and to offer what i thought was the alternative to violence.

i bring him up because mcveigh thought he was a patriot fighting against the actions of his government. so if people are fighting against the actions of their government in the matter of disapproving of health care, and turn to violence as a means of voicing their displeasure, where does it end?

mcveigh was "defending his belief" that the govt erred with the branch davidian compound fiasco. with violence.

 

Although there's no call for that kind of stuff, the media will take the actions of a few loons and blow it all out of proportion.

I will show my violent side at the ballot box.

 

Again I stated that I don't believe violence is the answer in this situation so it seems to be a moot point.
I believe you said violence is never the answer, turn the other cheek?
That is what I disagreed with stating WWII Europe.

Where does what end?:lol:
I'm starting to have fun now
Ironic isn't it.
That is what I have said about government growth and now taxation not to mention the nanny state.
Where does it end and who is the person to decide when it ends?

Comeback and make your McVeigh case when something happens along those lines and I will side with you.
Speaking of Waco, I had a problem with that did you?
There are some in this forum that think they got what they deserved.

 

voilence. that i said was uncalled for in the form of threats.

and bringing up mcveigh was a way of showing that violence can get out of control when one thinks they are "fighting against the government".

 

Yes well you are both right and wrong if you ask me.
In this situation you are right but you have still used terms like never and turn the other cheek and that is what I had a problem with.
Europe tried that in WWII
What if the American Revolution never happened?
What if countries never over threw their govenrments kinda like Iran or Yugoslavia on opposite sides of spectrum.

Thanks for the therapy I am feeling much better after talking to you!

 

Anyway I have thought about this a little more and no I don't think this stuff should happen, never said it should.

I think the Dems crossed the line, where does it end?
I think they violated the constitution and made all kinds of unfair,unethical deals so I am not surprised these things have happened.
I think no matter which party is in office, when you push the envelope and go to far you can expect some kind of backlash, It might be in form of voting or violence.
Rebellions have happened through the years from one civilization to the next, it is part of life.
Lesser things have caused revolutions.

I think people need to get use to this type of backlash and expect it as both parties move further apart mainly the democrats.
The Democrats are nowhere close to the JFK democrats they have moved radically to the left.
I guarantee our cost of living would be going down not up if it wasn't for the Dems policies from green energy and over regulation in some areas.
Our standard of living is about to decline and most don't really know it.

I think we should split up the country half liberal and half conservative and let everyone else fall in where they may.
Trust me we would all be better off, we are moving apart anyway.
People can deny it all they want, Democracies have only last for around 200 years.
I am afraid trouble could be ahead its just a matter of time.
Btw I believe Obama is a divider and not a uniter.
He didn't care what the process was as long as Pelosi's health care passed so therefore
he didn't care if the constitution or process was violated or not.
There are consequences when you do these kinds of things.

Disclaimer: In no way am I for a revolution or violence.
But I don't live in a Utopian world and I'm not going to apologize for the way people and civilizations have been from the beginning of time.
I'm about as radical as the founding fathers of this country.
I believe what they did for the most part, not all things though.
I feel great, I was pretty angry the last few days but I'm over
that before I made this speech.

Btw I am channeling my anger by joining tea parties, fighting this health care bill here, by petitions, I am going door to door with a petition for the state of Colorado.
If people don't like this bill or process they should do what I am doing to fight it.

Least of all this bill along with the Stimulus are destroying the country economically.
We don't have the money.
I am for saving the country first, without saving the country health care is pointless.

 

NO,you are misunderstanding me, I was being sarcastic.
What crimes have the families of executives committed that they should have the same kind of threats as the idiots in congress?
I was simply pointing out that all of the harassment the executives received was political and wrong just like what has happened to the idiot politicians in DC.

 

llegal or immoral or even against any rules.

And they had done absolutely nothing illegal or immoral or even against any rules. Obama and the Democrats cannot say that.

 

This is the type of behavior that has lead us to this point in this country. That said, it is an disheartening time for this US citizen. Living in the greatest country in the world, founded on the principles of a government of the people and for the people. Although our government hasn't worked under that premise for some time, I can't remember when their actions have been more glaring in total disregard of this principle foundation. Yes, I would agree that we need some sort of medical reform, I just don't think this current legislation or manner in which it was approved is the answer that best serves the American public.

I can say with all that has transpired I am glad that I didn't vote for Obama, Pelosi, or Reed, and that in the next elections I will again vote against these and others who act in a manner that is not representative of the people in this country. As a citizen of the United States of America I will voice my complete distrust of the current occupants of the White House. I truly hope that Mickey Mouse is running for office next time, he at least builds a world that is meant to bring happiness to the people, not the fear of losing everything that has been the m.o. of the current and later part of the last administration. Hopefully with the right administration we can get back to being a United country, because right now we are the farthest thing from it.