FBI executes search warrant at Mar-a-Lago

the very fact that you keep wanting to discuss this instead of the topic of this thread is all I need to know. You want to argue the irrelevant little details about whether I was personally attacking anyone here with my OP comments. No one else has come on and felt threatened by my comments or took them personally....only you. I refuse to engage you in mud slinging. People around here get tired of reading it. If you have some new information that relates to the mar-a-lago search warrant, let us know. If you want to start a thread about my character or your perception of it, have at it. I don't care.

 

Rep. Scott Perry, Republican congressman from Pennsylvania and the chairman of the House Freedom Caucus, had his phone seized by the FBI while on vacation. Given the same thing happened to John Eastman, Trump's "lawyer" during the January 6th riots, I just don't believe it when Trump's current lawyers say that this is all about documentation. If they wanted they could release the information and prove it but they have not. It seems that if this were all over some documents they would release the search warrant as evidence and then lean heavily on diminishing the seriousness of it. The fact that they haven't is odd and leads me to believe that there is more to this story. I really want to see the search warrant. We'll know a whole lot more about where this investigation is going when we do.

 

Let me remind you again YOU were the one who 1st complained about being "personal".

I just pointed out you lied. YOU had the issue. Not me.

Lastly, the point is that if you dont want "mud slinging" maybe you should edit your OP to not be so snarky, passive aggressive and filled with lies.

You say you want to talk about the "topic", but you brought "us" into it. So which is it?

 

therein lies the rub… should we suspicious of the FBI? this appears to be a situation in which the agency used the documents as a pretext for invading Trump’s home so they could find evidence of other alleged offenses that could be used against him….J6 hearings could use a boost?

when considering how differently the feds treat dems and gop in these situations, maybe we consider that the real objective is to get an indictment on any crime they can find – or invent….

this is why in an earlier response today I inferred that garland et al may have gotten ahead of themselves by not allowing trump to have legal representation during the 9 hr search given the enormity of the line crossed and ensuing further polarization of red/blue perception of the event…

 

I suppose that is your best guess but the truth is we haven't seen the search warrant so we don't know. Like I've said over and over, I find it hard to believe that they would go to such lengths if this were just about documents. It may also be why Trump's lawyers won't show the search warrant, because it contains something other than just documents. Right now we don't know. The January 6th hearings don't need any boosts, they've been explosive enough and have no doubt help spearhead the DOJ's investigation. Hell, at this point there are so many agencies, state and federal, investigating the man it is frankly hard to keep up with.

Tell that to Bill Clinton. The FBI got all up in his kool aid and he lied to them so he got impeached. Right now it probably seems like it's all focused on the right but make no mistake, it's because of Trump and Trump alone. The guy sees himself as above the law and now those chickens are coming home to roost.

Trump had multiple lawyers on site but they were not allowed to witness the search.
https://thehill.com/policy/national...i-teams-focused-on-three-areas-at-mar-a-lago/
Further, Garland has to undertake his investigation in a manner that will allow him an airtight case when it is time to prosecute...if it comes to that. He cannot worry about politics. That is not his job.

 

For someone who made this thread its odd you dont know that the warrant was sealed and not even Trumps lawyers have been able to see it and the judge has to release it. In the lawyers openly said the FBI lawyers refused to show them.

But they must be lying?>

 

The warrant was sealed by the judge who issued it. This is likely to protect Trump from it's contents becoming known to the public before his counsel has had a chance to review it.

“The warrant refers to the Presidential Records Act and possible violation of law over handling of classified information, according to Christina Bobb, a lawyer for the former president. The warrant hasn’t been made public.”
https://www.politico.com/newsletter...yers-provide-new-info-but-no-warrant-00050778
she says that it hasn't been made public, but she does not say that she hasn't seen it. In fact, she says that it refers to the Presidential Records Act. How did she know that if she hasn't seen it? I am only speculating here but I don't think I'm too far out on the limb when I say that Trump doesn't want it made public because, as I said earlier, it allows him the space to create his alternative realities where he is being persecuted and the DOJ and FBI are being "weaponized." I believe his lawyers have seen the search warrant but just don't want to release the info.....and that is their right as his legal counsel. It will be made public soon enough and we won't have to wonder any more.

I think they are. I have no insider knowledge of it but that's my two cents.

 

Right so you are just being snarky like Rex and Winston when you say "why wont they release it?".

https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump...aled-we-dont-know-what-the-probable-cause-is/

“It was very, I would say, thin. And as you can tell from public records, the affidavit, the supporting documentation of what the probable cause was to obtain the warrant has been sealed,” she added.

Many observers and legal analysts have noted that Trump and his attorney likely had the warrant and would be able to make public the reasoning behind the search, a notion Bobb shot down on Monday.

“So we’re not allowed to see that. We have to go to court to request the judge to release that which, you know, may or may not happen. So we don’t know what the probable cause is, why they were allowed to search, but they did,” Bobb continued.

 

is the hunter laptop russian disinformation?

 

Argument from incredulity, also known as argument from personal incredulity, appeal to common sense, or the divine fallacy,[1] is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition must be false because it contradicts one's personal expectations or beliefs, or is difficult to imagine.

your ability believe things is not relevant. we have no idea how far various folks will go for various documents or even if documents were involved